243. Including Young Voices in Leadership, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

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Episode 10: From Refugee to Radical 44:09

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When a young Eva Kollisch arrives as a refugee in New York in 1940, she finds a community among socialists who share her values and idealism. She soon discovers ‘the cause’ isn’t as idyllic as it seems. Little does she know this is the beginning of a lifelong commitment to activism and her determination to create radical change in ways that include belonging, love and one's full self. In addition to Eva Kollisch’s memoirs Girl in Movement (2000) and The Ground Under My Feet (2014), LBI’s collections include an oral history interview with Eva conducted in 2014 and the papers of Eva’s mother, poet Margarete Kolllisch, which document Eva’s childhood experience on the Kindertransport. Learn more at www.lbi.org/kollisch . Exile is a production of the Leo Baeck Institute , New York | Berlin and Antica Productions . It’s narrated by Mandy Patinkin. Executive Producers include Katrina Onstad, Stuart Coxe, and Bernie Blum. Senior Producer is Debbie Pacheco. Associate Producers are Hailey Choi and Emily Morantz. Research and translation by Isabella Kempf. Sound design and audio mix by Philip Wilson, with help from Cameron McIver. Theme music by Oliver Wickham. Voice acting by Natalia Bushnik. Special thanks to the Kollisch family for the use of Eva’s two memoirs, “Girl in Movement” and “The Ground Under My Feet”, the Sophia Smith Collection at Smith College and their “Voices of Feminism Oral History Project”, and Soundtrack New York.…

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Markus Watson and Tod Bolsinger engage in an enlightening conversation exploring a profound quote by Efrem Smith on the evolving narrative of church communities. They discuss the critical role of the emerging generation in not just being part of the church's story, but actively shaping its future. The episode explores the importance of diverse perspectives, adaptive leadership, and the humility required to foster a truly inclusive and vibrant faith community.
Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Efrem Smith in Ep 222, Building a Multi-Inlusive Church:

“As the story of your church unfolds, is it obvious that the emerging generation is not only part of the story, but part of shaping the story that will be told?”
THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:

Ministry leaders engage future generations by including their voices at the decision-making table.
Tod Bolsinger emphasizes the necessity for leaders to adopt a humble approach and be open to learning.
Markus Watson stresses the importance of diverse perspectives for a fuller understanding of God's calling.
Churches increase vitality by valuing spiritual maturity over age when selecting leaders.
Tod Bolsinger encourages leaders to focus on creating processes that foster deeper understanding and growth.

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243. Including Young Voices in Leadership, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

Spiritual Life and Leadership

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Ministry leaders engage future generations by including their voices at the decision-making table.
Tod Bolsinger emphasizes the necessity for leaders to adopt a humble approach and be open to learning.
Markus Watson stresses the importance of diverse perspectives for a fuller understanding of God's calling.
Churches increase vitality by valuing spiritual maturity over age when selecting leaders.
Tod Bolsinger encourages leaders to focus on creating processes that foster deeper understanding and growth.

Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

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258. Walking the Path of Other-Centered Leadership, with Marc Schelske, author of Walking Otherward 47:37

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! True ministry leadership isn’t about power; it’s about love in action. It’s about stepping into the self-giving, co-suffering way of Jesus, even when it feels counterintuitive. This kind of leadership doesn’t seek control but embraces humility, sacrifice, and deep connection with those we serve. In this episode, Marc Schelske, pastor of Bridge City Community Church and author of Walking Otherward , unpacks how embracing this kind of love reshapes our leadership, strengthens our churches, and helps us navigate the challenges of ministry with grace and wisdom. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Marc Schelske introduces the concept of other-centered, co-suffering love as a key aspect of following Jesus. The phrase "other-centered, co-suffering love" encompasses love that is conscious of others and willing to bear their burdens. Marc Schelske emphasizes the significance of Philippians 2 and Jesus' journey to Jerusalem as examples of this love. Jesus' journey to Jerusalem symbolizes a path that is not self-centered but oriented towards others. Self-centered, ego-defending ambition contrasts sharply with the way Jesus modeled leadership. Marc Schelske reflects on his own leadership transition, focusing on how he learned to disconnect identity from numerical success. Leadership driven by other-centered, co-suffering love requires holding space for others to process change at their own pace. Marc Schelske explains the importance of allowing time in decision-making processes to foster consensual and loving leadership. The fear of death and discomfort often drives the desire for control and power within leadership. Marc Schelske discusses creating communities where multiple perspectives can coexist without division. Churches must embrace a posture of vulnerability and humility in their leadership practices. Marc Schelske highlights that love acts by consent, meaning decisions should include space for honest dialogue and dissent. Co-suffering love challenges traditional notions of leadership by prioritizing presence over power. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Marc Schelske: Website - https://marcalanschelske.com/ Bridge City Community Church Books mentioned: Walking Otherward , by Marc Schelske Falling Upward , by Richard Rohr Related episodes: 206. The Healing Power of Pilgrimmage, with Jon Huckins 236. Supporting Families with Autism in Your Church, with David Quel 240. Leading with Wisdom from Above, with Uli Chi Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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257. Slowing Down When the World Speeds Up, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson 7:07

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss the importance of acknowledging when leaders feel overwhelmed and how critical it is to slow down and reflect rather than react impulsively. Through engaging metaphors and practical advice, they share strategies for adaptive leadership, highlighting practices such as pausing, getting perspective, and silent prayer to navigate chaos and uncertainty effectively. Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from David Quel in Ep 242, Life and Leadership in the Fog : "The world is moving fast. Change is speeding up and human brains haven't necessarily changed in order to be able to cope with all that's happening." THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Leaders need to acknowledge feeling overwhelmed when confronting rapid change. Practicing adaptive leadership requires slowing down and reflecting rather than reacting impulsively. Effective leaders train themselves to pause and assess before taking action during crises. Pausing to pray or gain perspective can help leaders manage chaotic situations more effectively. Leaders should ask if immediate decisions are necessary to avoid defaulting to outdated practices. Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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256. Digital Disruption and the Future of the Church, with Rex Miller, author of The Millenium Matrix 47:15

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! AI, social media, and other technologies are transforming community, worship, and leadership. To stay effective, ministry leaders must understand these shifts—but also learn from the past. How do today’s technologies compare to those of previous eras? This perspective can help us navigate the future. In this episode, I’m joined by Rex Miller, author of The Millennium Matrix . A futurist and expert in leading through change, Rex will share insights on how cultural and technological shifts impact ministry and how we can adapt. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Rex Miller explores the impact of communication changes on Christianity over the centuries. The Millennium Matrix analyzes shifts in communication and their effects on church culture. Rex Miller describes the transformation from an oral culture to print culture through technological advancements like the Gutenberg printing press. The broadcast era introduced personality-driven leadership and large-scale praise and worship experiences in churches. Rex Miller explains the transition from analog to digital technology and its wider implications. Digital culture fosters interactive, networked communication that reshapes organizational and cultural dynamics. In the social mobile era, personalized and real-time interactions dominate communication patterns. Rex Miller predicts that AI will enhance personalization and autonomy in community formation. The shift from community-centric oral culture to individualistic broadcast culture reflects changes in authority structures. Markus Watson delves into how shifting cultural frameworks affect pastoral leadership and church practices. Rex Miller sees potential in decentralized, grassroots approaches to modern church gatherings. The opportunities for direct community involvement and personalized content create new forms of ministry. Rex Miller highlights how technological changes continuously reshape leadership and organizational strategies. Church leaders must transition from a certainty mindset to one of curiosity to adapt effectively to cultural changes. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Rex Miller: Rexmiller.com Linked In Mind Shift Genius Spark Books mentioned: The Millenium Matrix , by Rex Miller Neuromancer , by William Gibson Movies mentioned: Jesus Revolution Pleasantville Related episodes: 118. Forecasting and Innovation, with Tom Sine and Dwight Friesen 147. Is Innovation Inherently Good? with Andrew Root 155: Leadership and Looking to the Future, with Tom Sine Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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255. Mission-Centered Decision Making, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson 6:37

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Based on their experiences as pastors, Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson explore the delicate balance between seeking consensus through voting and the necessity of leading with focus and clarity. They delve into the unique challenges and responsibilities that come with adaptive leadership, emphasizing the importance of mission-driven decisions. Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Uli Chi in Ep. 240. Leading with Wisdom from Above, with Uli Chi : “There are times when leaders lead by providing focus and clarity, rather than simply taking a vote on everything.” THIS EPISODES HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Leaders guide by offering focus and clarity, not just by voting on every decision. Decisive leadership is necessary in complex situations. Effective pastors highlight the mission and encourage their boards to make decisions accordingly. True leadership sometimes requires addressing difficult truths instead of seeking unanimous consensus. Providing focus and clarity often involves asking the right questions to guide the team's decision-making process. Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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254. Endless Expectations and Emotional Exhaustion, with Jonathan Hoover, author of Stress Fracture 39:16

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Burnout. An all too familiar experience for most of us. It's more than just feeling tired or overworked. It's that crushing sense of futility when your passion for ministry runs out, and it leaves you wondering if you can even continue the work you were once so excited about. Jonathan Hoover, the author of Stress Fracture, Your Ultimate Guide to Beating Burnout , shares valuable insights from his experience and research, including practical strategies for managing stress, the importance of self-care, and maintaining emotional and spiritual health in leadership. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Jonathan Hoover shares the significant stress his father faced while pastoring their church. Jonathan Hoover explains how his father experienced severe emotional and physical symptoms of burnout. Markus Watson asks about the role of spirituality in addressing burnout. Jonathan Hoover highlights how the biblical story of Elijah offers insights into addressing burnout through rest and care. The world tempts people to believe they are infinite, leading to stress and burnout. Jonathan Hoover talks about 'super rats' and the dangers of endless adaptation to stress. Creating margin in life by setting limits can help prevent burnout. Monitoring multiple aspects of life, such as physical and emotional health, can help manage burnout. Jonathan Hoover introduces the concept of emotional exhaustion and how it impacts emotional regulation. Emotional intelligence decreases as emotional exhaustion increases. Burnout leads to a loss of passion and a fatalistic outlook on success. Minimizing distractions and increasing self-awareness are crucial in preventing burnout. To prevent burnout, people need to realize their own limits and adjust their workloads. Jonathan Hoover explains that emotional awareness is necessary for making lifestyle adjustments. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Jonathan Hoover: Website – drjonathanhoover.com Church website - Newspring.org Books mentioned: Stress Fracture , by Jonathan Hoover Leadership on the Line , by Ronald Heifetz and Marty Linsky Related episodes: 136. Healthy Attachment and Spiritual Leadership, with Todd Hall 175. From Burnout to Resilience, with Jason Young 179. The Neuroscience of Spiritual Formation, with Jim Wilder Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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253. Leading from a Place of Inner Abundance, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson 6:21

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson explore the essential question: "What thirsts of my soul am I bringing to my congregation?" They discuss the importance of leaders acknowledging their own needs and the dangers of seeking fulfillment from their congregations instead of God. Learn how aligning personal needs with God's guidance can help leaders bring true abundance to their communities. Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Alan Fadling in Ep 238, Lead with Less Anxiety : "What thirsts of my soul am I bringing to my congregation in hopes they'll meet me there rather than learning to take the thirsts of my soul to God so that God could meet me in those places? And then I could bring abundance to the community of people entrusted to me.” THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Leaders must acknowledge their needs to avoid seeking affirmation from their congregations improperly. Effective leaders should bring their soul’s needs to God rather than their congregations. Leaders face the temptation of people-pleasing, which can derail their adherence to God's mission. Being transparent about personal needs helps leaders avoid subconscious behaviors that could hinder mission-focused leadership. Fulfilling personal needs through appropriate relationships prevents dependence on congregational approval. Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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252. Navigating the Pain of Being "Othered," with Jenai Auman, author of Othered 47:52

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! This episode tackles the topic of being "othered" by those in church leadership, an important conversation for anyone in ministry leadership who wants to understand how to create an environment of embrace, of love, of belonging—and of being a healthy team. Jenai Auman, the author of Othered , discusses her personal experiences of being othered by church leaders, the impact it had on her, and how leaders can cultivate communities marked by shalom and hesed . THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Jenai Auman shares her struggles with toxic issues and resistance at a church where she was on staff. Advocacy for personal boundaries led to Jenai being labeled as the problem and asked to leave the church. Individuals often remain in unhealthy environments due to a shallow understanding of love and belonging, influenced by past trauma. Jenai Auman identifies with domestic violence survivors in her determination to fix the system from within. Through her painful experience, Jenai Auman gained transformative wisdom and spiritual growth. Emphasizing the importance of healing, Jenai Auman aims to avoid bitterness and repeating the harm done to her. The hesed of God demonstrates loving kindness and compassion, aiming for wholeness in a fractured world. The zero-sum game misconception causes competition for comfort and peace, but God's shalom advocates for abundance. By adopting an open-handed posture towards others, we mirror God's nature, fostering inclusivity and belonging. Jenai Auman advises those feeling othered to recognize their inherent belovedness without seeking external validation. Church leaders should focus on self-reflection and compassion, avoiding defensive othering. Jenai Auman discusses the concept of shalom as a state of peace involving love, wisdom, and understanding personal stories. Naming experiences of othering is crucial for healing, enabling reconciliation and peace. Jenai Auman reflects on how her experiences with othering have shaped her understanding of mutuality and divine love. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Jenai Auman: Website Substack Email Books mentioned: Othered , by Jenai Auman Related episodes: 82: Narcissism and Spiritual Leadership, with Chuck DeGroat 92. Against a Culture of Abuse, with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer 163. You Can’t Be Found if You’re Never Lost, with Steve Carter Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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251. How Church Leaders Can Overcome Fear and Build Trust, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson 6:41

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson reflect on how fear influences our congregations and the importance of addressing it directly. They discuss the role of technical expertise in building trust and how leaders can compassionately accompany people through their fears, especially in times of change and perceived loss. Tod shares strategies for normalizing fear, creating communities of empathy, and tackling resistance by engaging with those who are most fearful. Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from David Quel in Ep 236, Supporting Families with Autism in Your Church : “People have a tendency to be fearful of what they don't understand and what they don't know.” THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Tod Bolsinger emphasizes the importance of accompanying people through their fears in leadership. Leaders need to acknowledge and normalize fear to help people navigate their anxieties. Churches should invite experts to build technical competence and trust. Addressing resistance directly helps calm fears and fosters gradual progress. Creating a community of empathy ensures that no one faces loss or fear alone. Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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250. The Prophetic Challenge of Deconstruction, with Scot McKnight, author of Invisible Jesus 37:35

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! In this episode, we’re taking a deep-dive into the complex and, at times, nerve-wracking experience of deconstruction. Leaders often worry about its impact on their roles, their authority, and on the harmony or unity of their church communities. But what if deconstruction is less about tearing down faith and more about stripping away what's non-essential, centering instead on Jesus? In this epidsode, Scot McKnight, author of Invisible Jesus , sheds light on how deconstruction can be a path to a more Christ-focused faith, emphasizing the importance of creating supportive spaces for exploring and asking questions. This conversation is crucial for ministry leaders navigating their own or their congregants' journeys of faith reformation. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Markus Watson addresses the nervousness leaders feel about deconstruction and its potential impacts on their beliefs. Scot McKnight highlights that leaders fear deconstruction because it threatens their job security, authority, and influence. People undergoing deconstruction can disrupt church communities, creating anxiety about church teachings. Markus Watson emphasizes the need for leaders to find safe spaces outside their church community for discussing deconstruction. Scot McKnight suggests that churches should support and provide safe exploration spaces instead of trying to control questioning individuals. Pastors face pressure to have all the answers, and questioning can trigger their insecurities about their role and authority. Markus Watson discusses how churches need to shift their culture to become open to questioning and changes. Scot McKnight reflects on his book "Invisible Jesus," addressing how deconstruction is not about abandoning faith but refocusing on Christ by removing non-essential elements. A study cited by Scot McKnight shows that 86% of people who undergo deconstruction remain in the church, although they may change congregations. Deconstruction resembles a personal Protestant Reformation where individuals reassess and personalize their faith journey. Scot McKnight draws parallels between deconstruction and historical movements aimed at shedding unnecessary church practices or beliefs, focusing on continual reform. Scot McKnight states that Jesus acted as a deconstructor, challenging the law within Judaism similar to the prophets. The church's role should involve listening to deconstructors rather than fearing or dismissing them, promoting an adaptive leadership approach. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Scot McKnight: Substack Books mentioned: Invisible Jesus , by Scot McKnight and Tommy Phillips A Church Called Tov , by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer Revelation for the Rest of Us , by Scot McKnight and Cody Matchett Related episodes: 171. Leading Your Ministry as a Dissident Disciple, with Scot McKnight 98. Deconstruction and Reconstruction, with A.J. Swoboda 92. Against a Culture of Abuse, with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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249. Balancing Tradition and Innovation in Church Leadership, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson 7:28

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson engage in a meaningful conversation about the delicate balance of honoring the "inherited church" while experimenting on the edges to drive adaptive change. Drawing from a quote by Shannon Kiser, who is deeply involved in adaptive leadership and fresh expressions of church, Tod explains how churches can innovate without discarding valuable traditions. Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Shannon Kiser in Ep 177, Exploring New Forms of Church : “We don’t have to give up what we love and cherish about the inherited church to also experiment on the edges.” THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Church leaders honor the inherited church by experimenting on the edges without abandoning tradition. Adaptive leadership brings life to faith communities by evolving core practices to fit changing environments. Teams conduct modest experiments on the fringes to introduce effective innovations into the church. Effective change requires balancing respect for the past with openness to new approaches. Congregations thrive by integrating new discoveries that cater to both historical and present needs. Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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248. Ministry's Heavy Burdens and the Christmas Promise of Rest 8:13

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! In this special Christmas Eve episode of Spiritual Life and Leadership, Markus Watson takes a moment to share some heartfelt encouragement for those feeling the weight of ministry's demands. Reflecting on both personal and professional burdens, Markus reminds us of the importance of leaning on Jesus to find true rest and relief. By exploring the story of the shepherds, magi, and even King Herod, Markus illustrates how Jesus invites each of us to let go of our exhaustion and allow Him to help carry our burdens. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Pastors face a lot of pressure in preparing sermons, providing pastoral care, leading meetings, and handling administrative duties. The constant demand for excellence in ministry, even during times of societal change, amplifies stress and feelings of responsibility. Markus Watson emphasizes the added strain of personal burdens, describing his own experience caring for aging parents. Life’s cumulative burdens, both personal and professional, contribute to a persistent feeling of exhaustion. Despite exhaustion, love and care for congregants and loved ones remain a priority. The host draws an analogy between the exhaustion of ministry workers and the biblical figures present at Jesus' birth. Shepherds, magi, and the people of Israel felt weary from their own burdens. Markus Watson points out that King Herod also experienced weariness, though he rejected the invitation of Jesus’ birth. Jesus' words in Matthew 11 are an invitation for rest and relief. Markus Watson concludes by encouraging listeners to allow Jesus to help carry their personal and ministry burdens, reassuring them that they are not alone. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Related episodes: 117. Leading with Courage and Integrity in Times of Discontinuous Change 206. The Healing Power of Pilgrimage, with Jon Huckins 244. Finding Strength in Desperation, with Mandy Smith Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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247. The Kingdom of God as Present Reality, a Quick conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson 8:33

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Markus Watson and Tod Bolsinger discuss the concept of the kingdom of God as a way of life, rather than a distant place. Inspired by a powerful quote from Yolanda Solomon, they discuss the profound implications this understanding has for ministry leadership and personal discipleship. Discover how embracing God's will in the present moment can transform your leadership and community, and what it means to live out the reality of God's reign right here, right now. Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Yolanda Solomon in Ep 232, Learning from Jesus : "The kingdom that Jesus proclaims and the kingdom that Jesus embodies is not a place. It's a way of life." Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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246. Have We Forgotten to Pray? with Jeff Hoffmeyer 41:50

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! What if prayer wasn’t just a box to check off your to-do list, but a lifeline deeply integrated into every moment of your life and your leadership? Imagine navigating every challenge, every conflict, and every transition with an ongoing sense that God is with you. Jeff Hoffmeyer is Vice President for Advancement and Resident Theologian for the Denver Institute for Faith and Work , and a teacher in the Doctor of Ministry program at Fuller Theological Seminary. In this episode, Jeff shares his insights on the significance of prayer in leadership, how to keep prayer practices fresh and meaningful, and how to integrate the Bible into your prayer life, turning it into a rich resource for your ministry. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Markus Watson introduces the concept of "praying without ceasing," questioning its feasibility and practical application. Jeff Hoffmeyer suggests that "praying without ceasing" involves including God in every moment of daily life. Prayer can be incorporated into transitions between tasks, making it a continuous practice. Markus Watson compares prayer to a comfortable silence in relationships, emphasizing a connection without constant conversation. Jeff Hoffmeyer highlights that prayer involves more than words, incorporating awareness and presence with God. The Bible serves as a resource for ministry and prayer, guiding conversations with God and integrating scripture into prayers. Markus Watson shares his experience with Lectio Divina, finding it more meaningful than quick Bible readings. Jeff Hoffmeyer underscores the importance of prayer for leadership, even if it doesn't feel mastered. Maintaining a connection with God through prayer helps leaders ground their identity in Christ amid challenges. Jeff Hoffmeyer discusses the role of attention in leadership, advocating for understanding personal anxiety and others' motivations. Jeff Hoffmeyer emphasizes the need to attend to the world's needs, whether as church leaders, business leaders, or parents. Markus Watson appreciates the contemplative nature of Hoffmeyer's podcast, noting its thoughtful, longer conversations. Jeff Hoffmeyer describes prayer as a "resource," helping leaders connect with the divine and make their work meaningful. Prayer should be an integral part of everyday life, helping individuals notice the divine in daily routines. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Teach Us to Pray Podcast Denver Institute for Faith and Work Fuller Theological Seminary Doctor of Ministry De Pree Center for Leadership Church Leadership Institute Related Episodes: 44. Spiritual Formation and Lectio Divina, with Eric Nevins 112. The Beatitudes and Spiritual Leadership, with Mark Scandrette 216. Overcoming ‘Puny’ Spirituality, with Warren Brown and Brad Strawn Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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245. Standing in the Gap, a Quck Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson 7:46

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Markus Watson and Tod Bolsinger discuss the essential role of pastors and spiritual leaders in "standing in the gap," inspired by a profound quote from Amy Peeler. They explore how leaders can support their communities by being present in times of crisis, offering intercessory prayer, and providing emotional and spiritual accompaniment. Through personal stories and leadership insights, they highlight the importance of not letting others face challenges alone and the powerful impact of embodying a pastoral presence during tough decisions and anxious moments. Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Amy Peeler in Ep 224, Leadership Through the Lens of Hebrews : "As a priest, as a pastor, we are called to stand in the gap for people. Right? That could be as simple as, we have the time and the resources to study God's word during the week so that, when the congregation comes in, we can share the fruit of that time that we've invested." THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Ministry leaders stand in the gap for their congregations, embodying both authority and empathy. Pastors enrich their congregations by dedicating time to study God's word, offering spiritual insights in return. Effective leaders accompany their team through anxious and challenging times, providing support and reassurance. Spiritual leadership involves being present with people, especially in moments of crisis and decision-making. Leaders foster a sense of community by ensuring no one feels alone in their burdens and responsibilities. Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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244. Finding Strength in Desperation, with Mandy Smith, author of Confessions of an Amateur Saint 43:07

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Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking! Is leadership about enduring endless challenges without ever, y’know, faltering? Or is it about recognizing when to slow down, step back, acknowledge our weaknesses and reconnect with the God who calls us? In this episode, Mandy Smith, author of Confessions of an Amateur Saint , talks about developing our capacity when ministry gets hard, the essential role of rest, and how we can find strength even in times of desperation. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: Mandy Smith underscores the necessity of recognizing burnout early and taking intentional breaks for spiritual reflection. Mandy Smith reveals her practice of observing a Monday Sabbath, emphasizing the importance of uninterrupted rest in remembering spiritual purposes. Challenges in ministry can expand one’s capacities if approached with discernment. Mandy Smith emphasizes the importance of identifying the "true self" versus the "false self" in leadership roles. The conversation touches on navigating unknowns in ministry, where traditional methods may not be effective anymore. Mandy Smith discusses her routine of daily prayer for guidance, especially during challenging times in ministry. Prayer serves as a crucial aspect of leadership, connecting leaders to God's guidance and renewal. Markus Watson refers to the insights from Mandy’s book, The Vulnerable Pastor , underscoring the value of vulnerability in leadership. Mandy Smith talks about the urgency felt due to declining church attendance, stressing a deeper reliance on prayer. Personal and communal desperation in the church can lead to spiritual growth and greater reliance on God. Mandy Smith explores the concept of "confession" as turning towards God, involving acknowledgment of thoughts and reaffirmation of faith. Shifting from secular professionalism to Christian leadership reliance on God, Mandy Smith critiques the application of secular standards within church contexts. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS: Mandy Smith: www.thewayistheway.org Instagram - @mandysmithhopes The Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination Books mentioned: Confessions of an Amateur Saint , by Mandy Smith The Vulnerable Pastor , by Mandy Smith Related episodes: 36. The Vulnerable Pastor, with Mandy Smith 107. Childlike Faith, Adultlike Leadership, with Mandy Smith 194. Saudade, Leadership, and Nurturing the Inner Life, with Jeff Crosby Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM .…

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