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2#11 - Karin Håkansson - Data Governance in a Mesh (Eng)

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«Data Mesh promises so much, so of course everyone is talking about it.»

I had the pleasure to chat with Karin Håkansson about Data Governance in a Mesh. Karin has worked with Data Governance and Data Mesh and is really active in the Data Mesh Community, speaking at podcasts and moderating the LinkedIn Group «Data Governance - Data Mesh»

Here are my key takeaways from our conversation:

Data in Retail

  • The culture in retail is about innovation, experimentation, new products. So governance has to adapt to this environment in order to be successful.
  • If retail would do, what we do in data a fashion retailer would sell yarn instead of t-shirts.
  • Retail knows what the customer wants, before the customer wants it. What would happen if we in data think like retailers?
  • Its more about understanding the business better, then making the business data literate.

Data Governance

  • Data Governance best practices in the DMBOK is still relevant, also in a Data Mesh setting.
  • Data Governance has been on a journey from compliance driven to business value driven.
  • Centralized Data governance creates a bottleneck. Decentralized Governance creates silos. So federated Data Governance is the middle ground.
  • Create incentives to create trust.
  • If you utilize your platform correctly, you can have high expectations towards computational governance.

Data Mesh

  • Data Mesh comes with a cost - you need to invest in Data Mesh.
  • But more than anything Data Mesh implementation is an enormous change effort.
  • If you don’t know why Data Mesh, you will implement something else
  • Implement Data Mesh in an agile way: «start small, fail fast and iterate»
  • To start with Data Mesh, work with a business team that is eager to get started and sees the benefits - «You have to have business onboard, otherwise its not going to work.»
  • Always check if you get the value that you expected.
  • When you do it, make sure you get Governance, business and tech teams to work together and a re aligned on the why.
  • Make sure two upskill for Data Mesh - its is fundamentally different: talk about it, have debates, book clubs, ++
  • The 4 elements of data mesh: Can you implement those in a sequence or should you look at them as a unite to implement within a limited scope?
  • Start finding ways for people to work together (eg. Common goal, and environment where it is ok to share).
  • A good first step is to find an example of data with a certain issue or limitation and talk with the business user about exactly this.
  • Data Governance, as much as Data Mesh, is about change management: You need to get close to the business and collaborate actively.
  • Your first two steps should be:
  1. Start with one business unite, an early adopter.
  2. Find their most critical data and talk about actual data.

MDM and Data Mesh

  • Are we still hunting for that golden record? How do we work with MDM in a mesh? This is not solved yet.
  • You can refer to data, instead of collecting data in a MDM system.
  • Maybe the best approach so far are global IDs to track data cross domains, but how you link your data might become the new MDM.
  • «You still need to connect the data, but you don’t need to collect the data.» - MDM in a Mesh.

Domains, federation and responsibility

  • If you federate responsibility to the domains, they also need the resources and competency to fulfill these responsibilities.
  • If the domain data teams are successful in abstracting the complexity, it will become easy to create data products.
  • If you scale too fast (faster than your data platform), you might end up having to duplicate teams.
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«Data Mesh promises so much, so of course everyone is talking about it.»

I had the pleasure to chat with Karin Håkansson about Data Governance in a Mesh. Karin has worked with Data Governance and Data Mesh and is really active in the Data Mesh Community, speaking at podcasts and moderating the LinkedIn Group «Data Governance - Data Mesh»

Here are my key takeaways from our conversation:

Data in Retail

  • The culture in retail is about innovation, experimentation, new products. So governance has to adapt to this environment in order to be successful.
  • If retail would do, what we do in data a fashion retailer would sell yarn instead of t-shirts.
  • Retail knows what the customer wants, before the customer wants it. What would happen if we in data think like retailers?
  • Its more about understanding the business better, then making the business data literate.

Data Governance

  • Data Governance best practices in the DMBOK is still relevant, also in a Data Mesh setting.
  • Data Governance has been on a journey from compliance driven to business value driven.
  • Centralized Data governance creates a bottleneck. Decentralized Governance creates silos. So federated Data Governance is the middle ground.
  • Create incentives to create trust.
  • If you utilize your platform correctly, you can have high expectations towards computational governance.

Data Mesh

  • Data Mesh comes with a cost - you need to invest in Data Mesh.
  • But more than anything Data Mesh implementation is an enormous change effort.
  • If you don’t know why Data Mesh, you will implement something else
  • Implement Data Mesh in an agile way: «start small, fail fast and iterate»
  • To start with Data Mesh, work with a business team that is eager to get started and sees the benefits - «You have to have business onboard, otherwise its not going to work.»
  • Always check if you get the value that you expected.
  • When you do it, make sure you get Governance, business and tech teams to work together and a re aligned on the why.
  • Make sure two upskill for Data Mesh - its is fundamentally different: talk about it, have debates, book clubs, ++
  • The 4 elements of data mesh: Can you implement those in a sequence or should you look at them as a unite to implement within a limited scope?
  • Start finding ways for people to work together (eg. Common goal, and environment where it is ok to share).
  • A good first step is to find an example of data with a certain issue or limitation and talk with the business user about exactly this.
  • Data Governance, as much as Data Mesh, is about change management: You need to get close to the business and collaborate actively.
  • Your first two steps should be:
  1. Start with one business unite, an early adopter.
  2. Find their most critical data and talk about actual data.

MDM and Data Mesh

  • Are we still hunting for that golden record? How do we work with MDM in a mesh? This is not solved yet.
  • You can refer to data, instead of collecting data in a MDM system.
  • Maybe the best approach so far are global IDs to track data cross domains, but how you link your data might become the new MDM.
  • «You still need to connect the data, but you don’t need to collect the data.» - MDM in a Mesh.

Domains, federation and responsibility

  • If you federate responsibility to the domains, they also need the resources and competency to fulfill these responsibilities.
  • If the domain data teams are successful in abstracting the complexity, it will become easy to create data products.
  • If you scale too fast (faster than your data platform), you might end up having to duplicate teams.
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