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Noble Mind

Katherine King, PsyD, and Alex Gokce, MSW

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Noble Mind is a podcast exploring mindfulness, meditation, and psychology. In each episode, Alex Gokce, MSW, and Katherine King, PsyD, host inspiring conversations with psychologists, authors, and other thought leaders seeking real world wisdom you can bring into daily life. Interviewees have included Christopher Germer, Ron Siegel, Susan Pollak, Tom Pedulla, and more. Learn more, read show notes, suggest interviews, and more at noblemindpodcast.com. Our show is brought to you by the Institu ...
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In this episode, Beth Kurland returns to share about her new book, You Don’t Have To Change to Change Everything. Beth teaches us how we can walk ourselves out of survival mode into a state of thriving. She describes six practical strategies to help learn to engage challenges constructively. Beth Kurland, PhD, is a clinical psychologist in Massachu…
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In this episode, we talk to Dr. Akeem Sule about his work with people experiencing psychosis and other severe mental health symptoms in an inpatient setting. He discusses the potential pitfalls of a purely biological view of mental illness and describes therapeutic interventions that he’s found useful with his patients. We also explore the pros and…
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In this episode, Dr. Sara Lazar shares about the neuroscience of meditation. Dr. Lazar has been doing research on the effects of meditation for over twenty years and discusses what she’s learned about how our emotional processing, executive functioning, memory, and even sense of self can all be impacted by meditation. We also talk about aging and c…
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In this episode, we talk to Shaun Glossop about his work building a mindfulness group outside of the usual religious or medical contexts in which it is often taught. We discuss what he has done to reduce barriers to engaging with mindfulness by finding ways to make practice more accessible and relatable to people in his community. He also discusses…
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In this episode, hosts Alex and Kate finish their exploration of the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism by exploring the Fourth Noble Truth. This Truth describes the Eightfold Path which can lead us towards relief from suffering in this lifetime. The Eightfold Path describes the importance of right speech, action, livelihood, mindfulness, and more. List…
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In this episode, Kate and Alex talk to Kris Sutton about healing from chronic pain. She shares her lived experience with pain from multiple medical issues including migraine, endometriosis, and cancer. She describes her work as a pain coach and the power of leveraging the effects of neuroplasticity to help the brain learn to make new meaning of the…
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In this episode, hosts Alex and Kate continue their exploration of the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism, this time focusing their attention the Third Noble Truth which tells us that the end of our suffering is possible. Listen to how Kate and Alex interpret the meaning of this truth, including traditional Buddhist understandings as well as everyday ap…
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In this episode, Alex and Lesley Huff sat down for a second, in-depth conversation exploring a range of themes. They discuss how importance it is to paying attention to how we use the tools of mindfulness and compassion so that we can be sure to use them in supportive and healing ways rather than to manipulate our experience or express self-aggress…
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In this episode, Judith Hill-Weld talks about how trying to control our emotions can interfere with being present in our lives. She discusses the importance of not postponing joy, and describes her passion for working with individuals who have developmental and intellectual disabilities. Judith Hill-Weld, M.S., is a Licensed Marriage & Family Thera…
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In this episode, Lesley Huff talks about the human need for certainty and how this creates challenges in relating to the many unknowns in life. We discuss the paradox that mindfulness practices can help us to make changes in life, but also allow us to be more accepting of who we are in the moment. We explore the potential pitfalls of self-improveme…
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In this episode, Catherine Coinçon talks about methods of relaxation and visualization to support and enhance our health and well-being. She describes the importance of staying connected to a sense of joy and vitality, and leads a practice to help us connect with our deeper self. Listen in as she shares the history and practice of Sophrology, which…
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In this episode, Patricia Isis shares about the healing potential of engaging in artistic and creative pursuits. She discusses her work as a registered art therapist and what art therapy might look like for different clients, as well as the importance of self-compassion and sharing one's artwork with a supportive and encouraging community. Listen i…
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In this episode, hosts Kate and Alex continue their exploration of the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism, with particular emphasis on the Second Noble Truth. This Truth is "the truth of the cause of suffering." Listen in as Kate and Alex unpack the ways that our suffering is caused by desire or longing, wanting things to be other than they are, and in …
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In this episode, we talk to Marisa Mazzo about dealing with avoidance and ways we can face our fears. She explains key principles of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and discusses her inspiring work helping people heal from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. We dig into the broader problems of fear and avoidance, and discuss skills that anyone can use…
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Happy Autumn! In this episode, hosts Alex and Kate explore the challenges of constant distraction. They discuss ways of managing overwhelming incoming news, information, emails, texts, and more, the emotional toll of such a way of life, and the importance of finding moments of rest, silence, and solitude even during busy times. Listen in for ways t…
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In this episode, we talk to Caroline Hoffman about embodiment, mindfulness, and explore the ways that our lives can be improved by learning to be more connected to the experiences of the body. We also discuss her background in yoga, nursing, and massage therapy, and her work using mindfulness-based stress reduction (MBSR) with people impacted by ca…
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In this episode, hosts Kate and Alex take a deep dive into the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism, with particular emphasis on the First Noble Truth commonly translated as “life is characterized by suffering.” They unpack some of the linguistic and cultural misunderstandings that can get in the way of the deeper message of this teaching. They connect th…
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In this episode, Ruth Williamson shares about how we can activate a sense of purpose that brings us more fully alive, as well as how to participate in the world with greater compassion. She shares her insights as a Buddhist chaplain-in-training and what she has learned through social justice ministry work with individuals experiencing houselessness…
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In this episode we chatted with Alfie Wishart about addiction recovery, compassion, shame, and the role of spirituality in healing. He shares about his personal recovery journey and also discusses how he works with therapy clients. He explains codependency and how he helps people heal from narcissistic relationships. Listen in for his perspective o…
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In this episode, we speak with Rochelle Jaffe about working with self-criticism, emotional and physical pain, overwhelm, and anger. Rochelle Jaffe, M.S. is a mindfulness and self-compassion practitioner and psychotherapist in Ashland, Oregon. She works with individuals and groups online and in person.…
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In this episode we talk to Marc Lesser about how mindfulness and emotional intelligence can be integrated into our work lives- including the ‘work’ of being a human, a parent, a spouse, or other meaningful roles we inhabit. He shares essential elements of mindful leadership and discusses how he has brought this insight into corporate settings. Marc…
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In this episode, we talk to Jon Walker about similarities and differences between relaxation and mindfulness as well as how expectations can interfere with mindfulness practice. He also describes practices that can improve our coping in a practical way in daily life, and reflects on some of the challenges of a driven and productivity-focused life. …
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In this episode, David Teitelman discusses how mindfulness and self-compassion have helped him navigate chronic health conditions, body image issues, and old emotional wounds. David studied classical dance, rose in the corporate world, and cultivated self-criticism as a way of life. After being diagnosed with a progressive neuromuscular condition a…
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In this episode, Kristy Arbon discusses her experiences with self-compassion and her work developing somatic self-compassion to integrate body awareness more fully into these practices. Listen in for Kristy's insights on the connections between Buddhism and self-compassion and how to reconnect with your internal experience and build stress resilien…
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In this episode, we speak to Mirjam Luthe about the importance of gratitude, appreciation, deep listening, and connecting to the natural world. She shares about rituals and strategies she has used with her children to​ develop ​skills of listening, compassion, and ​appreciation at home. We also explore the historical roots of trauma, cultural heali…
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We are hard-wired for survival, not necessarily happiness. So, what can we do to strengthen our capacity for happiness? And how can we apply the principles of self-compassion as we work through challenging times? In this episode of Noble Mind, Victoria Brattini shares about her work teaching mindfulness and self-compassion. She shares how she has l…
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In this episode of Noble Mind, hosts Alex and Kate explain where our internalized messages of self-criticism come from, exploring how it can show up up as a running negative commentary in our heads or a general feeling of demoralization. They discuss why it’s useful to identify our patterns of self-criticism, describing how the inner critic can eit…
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In this episode, Dr. Daniel Ellenberg explains how the gender roles we internalize from an early age can cause difficulty in our personal lives and even impact the world at large. He describes the “man box” and how it often ignores the complexity of individual men and diverse masculinities. He also describes his work helping men and couples develop…
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In this episode of Noble Mind, Anthony Zanesco discusses research on the effects on meditation and the experiences of mind wandering and spontaneous thought. He explains different aspects of mindfulness and shares insights about why most people find meditation to be a difficult task. Listen in to learn more about mysterious microstates that our bra…
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In this episode, Michael Pringle discusses the healing power of self-compassion, describing how it helped him learn to better navigate moments of duress in his personal life. He explains how he was introduced to mindfulness through martial arts and explains how practices like kung fu have helped him develop a range of positive character traits. Mic…
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In this episode, Belinda Siew Luan Khong shares her thoughts about the connections between secular mindfulness and its Buddhist roots. She describes the training that teachers and therapists need to skillfully introduce the Dharma to a Western audience, offering anecdotes from her own clinical work in teaching meditation and mindfulness to diverse …
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How do you respond to difficult feedback? Our first instinct is to defend ourselves or our organization, but that only amplifies the frustration of the person who feels wronged. So, how do we change the way we field criticism and complaints? What does it look like to offer a meaningful apology? And how do we work through the process of forgiving ou…
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Would you like the opportunity to begin again in 2022? Since ​Noble Mind began two years and 50 episodes ago, we have all faced significant challenges. Challenges that may have gotten in the way of achieving our goals. So, what does it look like to slow down, step back and begin again? And how might the skills we practice in meditation help us star…
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Buddhist yogi Drukpa Kunley is the embodiment of crazy wisdom. And while the stories of his behavior seem crazy to us, Drukpa Kunley’s outrageousness comes from a place of insight. From his point of view, we’re the crazy ones—trapped in our thoughts about reality and unable to see things as they actually are. In this episode, Lama Liz Monson joins …
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When pain persists, over time it changes our brain. As pain-related neural connections grow stronger and stronger, ultimately our experience of pain worsens. But what if we could leverage mindfulness-based interventions to rewire our brains and reduce the impact of pain over time? On this episode of Noble Mind, Dr. Melissa Day joins Kate and Alex t…
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In this episode, Willa Blythe Baker joins Kate and Alex to discuss the experiential divide between mind and body that serves as a source of suffering. She describes the difference between the conceptual and feeling body and explains four ways that the body can be a source of wisdom. Listen in for Willa's insight on bringing together body, mind, and…
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In this episode, Dr. Steven Hickman shares about his new book, Self-Compassion for Dummies, and describes his love of teaching self-compassion to skeptics and beginners. He explains what mindful self-compassion is, and how it can work as an antidote to our fight, flight, and freeze responses. He also describes the more fierce side of self-compassio…
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The inner critic seems like an enemy, viciously attacking our character and fostering self-doubt. But what if that critical voice is really just worried about us? What if we could relate to our inner critic differently by recognizing its fears? In this episode, Ann Weiser Cornell and Barbara McGavin discuss how the processes of Inner Relationship F…
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We tend to think of self-compassion as an act of gentleness, and the tender side of self-compassion is all about soothing, reassuring and accepting ourselves. But sometimes getting angry, saying no and taking action is the most compassionate thing you can do for yourself, and that’s where fierce self-compassion comes in. In this episode of Noble Mi…
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In this episode, Noble Mind co-host Katherine King, PsyD describes the Four Reminders, a traditional Buddhist teaching that can inspire us to engage more fully in mindfulness, meditation, and other meaningful practices. Sharing from her own experiences, she describes how appreciation of the preciousness of life, awareness of our own freedoms and pr…
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The Franciscan tradition of Catholicism teaches about the interconnectedness of all being. It’s about seeing the divine in ourselves and all of creation. So, what do meditation and mindful self-compassion look like from a Franciscan point of view? Hans Baars is a former Dutch Franciscan Priest who served in Pakistan from 1959 to 1986, before leavin…
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Systems of oppression establish a hierarchy, giving one group power and privilege over others. And people who identify as BAME or BIPOC carry feelings like shame, grief, and anger as a result. So, how can marginalized communities use mindful self-compassion as a tool to fight oppression from the inside and respond to challenging situations, thought…
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In this episode of Noble Mind, Kathryn joins Kate and Alex to discuss what it looks like to apply the principles of self-compassion in daily life, describing how the resistance to rest shows up and what we can do to overcome it. She explains how our bodies are easily forgotten when our minds are filled with chatter and shares the consequences she s…
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In this episode, Richard Goerling joins Kate and Alex to share his experience teaching the skills of mindfulness and compassion to police, military personnel, and other first responders. He discusses healthy and harmful aspects of police culture and the impact of occupational trauma on men and women in law enforcement. Listen in for Richard’s insig…
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In this episode of Noble Mind, Dr. Fisher joins Kate and Alex to discuss her new book, describing the physiology of trauma and what makes it a ‘living legacy.’ She explains why mindfulness-based treatments are helpful to trauma survivors, offering insight on what it means to be triggered and how we remember traumatic events with our feelings and bo…
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In this episode, Dr. Marcela Matos joins Kate and Alex to define shame, describing how the emotion serves an adaptive social function but can also cause us problems when it is too pervasive and shapes our identity. She explores why common shame experiences become traumatic for some people and goes on to explain how compassion, love and acceptance f…
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In this episode of Noble Mind, Chenxing Han shares about the diverse backgrounds and experiences of Asian American Buddhists that she encountered while conducting interviews for her new book, Be the Refuge: Raising the Voices of Asian American Buddhists. She discusses how these voices get erased from the mainstream story of western Buddhism and the…
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In this episode, Dr. Charlesly Joseph joins Kate and Alex to discuss his spiritual journey from growing up Episcopalian to embracing the dharma and finding his way to back to church and sangha in a time of personal difficulty. He explores the parallels between Buddhism and Christianity and reflects on the power of engaged Buddhism to address racial…
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Understanding self-compassion in theory is one thing, but practicing self-compassion in your daily life is another. If you commit to regular practice, you can learn to recognize your pain and respond with care and kindness. Better yet, self-compassion gives you the courage to navigate challenging experiences. So, how do we develop self-compassion a…
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​In this episode of Noble Mind, Deirdre Fay, MSW joins Kate and Alex to discuss the practical skills that help people healing from trauma and attachment pain. She discusses how our longing for connection provides important guidance about unmet attachment needs. She explains how the skills of mindfulness and concentration can help trauma survivors, …
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