642 | Spring Creek Fishing with Nick Secrist: Tips from Mossy Creek Fly Fishing

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Today we'll have an exciting conversation with Nick Secrist on spring creek fishing! Nick shares practical strategies and techniques, including the dry dropper method and tips for identifying when fish are ready to eat. He also recommends some fly selection, rod preferences, and nymphing setups. Additionally, we explore the Mossy Creek Fly Shop, its services, and community initiatives.

Nick's passion for fishing promises to make this episode an invaluable resource for anyone looking to enhance their fishing skills. Dive in and join us on this journey through the spring creeks of Virginia!

Episode Chapters with Nick Secrist on Spring Creek Fishing

1:36 - Nick shares his background in fishing, noting that he comes from a "fishy" family. He recalls an early photo of his dad fishing with him shortly after he was born and describes his family's fishing adventures, particularly offshore fishing.

4:44 - Nick briefly talks about the current fishing state. They are experiencing a drought similar to the one from the previous year, which is affecting the water levels and temperatures. Despite these challenges, the fishing for smallmouth bass, particularly on the South Fork of the Shenandoah River, is exceptional.

7:14 - Nick explains that Mossy Creek is unique due to its significant spring influence, cold water, and consistent fishing conditions throughout the year. He also mentions similar streams like Beaver Creek and Spring Run, which also have spring influences but may not be as consistently fishable as Mossy Creek.

8:30 - The conversation then shifts to smallmouth bass fishing. Nick outlines the peak smallmouth fishing season, which starts in late April and runs through September, with June, July, and August being the most consistent months for good fishing conditions.

11:25 - We discuss tips for spring creek fishing, specifically focusing on the technical aspects and nuances of fishing in Mossy Creek. Nick emphasizes that fishing in such environments can be challenging due to the unique micro drifts and currents caused by weed beds. He advises anglers to pay close attention to small channels and the drift of their lines, as simply casting into the middle of the creek is often ineffective.

13:36 - Nick talks about the dry dropper technique, especially during the spring and summer months. He explains that even if fish are not actively rising, there's still a good chance they will come up to take the dry fly. The dry dropper lands more naturally on the water and provides an opportunity for fish to strike. This technique is preferred over indicators in certain conditions, offering subtlety and a higher chance of success.

14:47 - He talks about the unique experience of fishing in spring creeks, particularly emphasizing the clear waters that allow anglers to see the fish. He also explains that while there are days with abundant catches, many people go to spring creeks for the challenge and satisfaction of sight fishing and having meaningful encounters with individual fish.

18:38 - Nick discusses how to identify when a fish is ready to eat. He explains that observing the fish's behavior in the water is key. Fish that are stationary at the bottom with closed mouths are likely not feeding, whereas fish that are more active, darting around and opening their mouths, are more likely to be in a feeding pattern.

He also shares tips on fishing techniques, particularly for Mossy Creek. He suggests that people often fish with streamers too slowly and nymphs too quickly. When streamer fishing, he advises making a few casts and then moving to find fish that are more willing to eat. Conversely, nymph fishing requires patience and precision due to the complexity of the creek's currents and depths. Persistence and varied techniques are necessary to catch fish with nymphs.

23:06 - He shares the patterns they use in fishing the Mossy Creek. He recommends using flies of different weights, sizes, and colors.

27:46 - Nick highlights the variety of streams available in their area, many of which are full of brook trout, thanks to the Blue Ridge and Allegheny mountain ranges. He also mentions the abundance of options within an hour’s drive, including both naturally occurring and stocked streams.

30:09 - We delve into the Mossy Creek Fly Shop owned by twin brothers, Brian and Colby. Nick explains that the shop offers both smallmouth and trout fishing trips. Smallmouth fishing is conducted via floating trips on rafts, covering five to ten miles of river depending on the route. These rafts provide flexibility, especially in areas with big bedrock or without boat ramps. Trout fishing, on the other hand, is done through walk-and-wade trips, suitable for the specific river conditions they encounter.

32:53 - Smallmouth fishing generally offers higher catch rates than trout fishing, even on less productive days. Nick elaborates that the Shenandoah River has a robust smallmouth population, making it possible to catch many fish, including smaller ones, with ease.

35:02 - Nick mentions that as temperatures drop in the fall, they pivot back to trout fishing due to the cooler temperatures and increased moisture, which makes the conditions favorable for trout. During the fall and winter, they engage in musky fishing, particularly in the South Fork and the James River.

38:26 - He shares that while they manage private stretches for guided trips, there is also a four-mile public section available, thanks to cooperative agreements with local landowners. He shares his experience of learning to fish in these waters and emphasizes the abundance of fishing options in the area.

44:11 - We dig into some key strategies for spring creek fishing. Nick suggests the importance of having a variety of flies to increase the chances of success. He also highlights the significance of achieving the right drift and being patient, as it can sometimes take considerable time to get the presentation just right. Nick notes that some fishing spots may require extended efforts, especially if they're complex, and advises anglers not to rush through but rather to adjust and refine their techniques as needed.

45:43 - Nick further elaborates on fly selection, mentioning specific types of flies suitable for the season and conditions. For instance, he recommends using dense flies for subsurface fishing and instant streamers. For dry fly fishing, he points out that a trico hatch is effective during early mornings throughout the summer. Additionally, he suggests using ants, beetles, hoppers, or PMX flies for blind fishing, as they have a larger profile and float well, making them attractive to opportunistic fish.

46:30 - He also emphasizes the importance of using longer rods, preferably eight and a half to nine feet. Longer rods help with mending and controlling the line over moss beds. Additionally, Nick advises using good floating lines and split shots for optimal nymph depth. He also mentions the importance of having a large net to accommodate the size of the fish one hopes to catch.

48:20 - Nick shares his typical nymphing setup, which involves using a 9ft 5wt rod and a nine-foot knotless tapered leader. He adjusts the tippet size based on the fishing conditions.

50:21 - He talks about his experience with fly tying, noting that his engagement with the hobby fluctuates. He uses a Renzetti Traveler vise, which he praises for its longevity and reliability, a sentiment echoed by Brian and Colby, who still use their vices bought at age 15. We had Lily Renzetti on the podcast in episode 486.

52:53 - We talk about vices and hobbies. Nick admits to having a coffee problem but reveals that his real obsession is tarpon fishing. He describes how he indulges this passion by reading books, listening to podcasts, and practicing his fishing techniques at home. He also goes on to share his upcoming travel plans centered around fishing.

55:23 - We talk about the Mossy Creek Mobile Fly Shop. The truck, resembling a retired UPS vehicle, has been fully outfitted with fly fishing gear, including spooling machines, lines, reels, rods, and flies. It features a distinctive Derek DeYoung trout wrap on the ceiling. Through the mobile fly shop, they aim to thank loyal customers and attract new ones by visiting various breweries across the state.

56:49 - Additionally, the Mossy Creek team collaborates with local Trout Unlimited chapters, Project Healing Waters, and other clubs to host events like fly tying competitions, further fostering community involvement. Dates and locations for the tour are available on their website.

58:31 - We talk a bit about the history of Virginia. Nick shares that he has been reading about historical figures like Daniel Boone and reflects on the historical significance of the local streams and landscapes. He also mentions that the fly shop was originally constructed in 1832, retaining much of its original wood, which adds to its historical charm. The shop is located in Harrisonburg, just a few blocks from the downtown area, making it a convenient and historically rich location for visitors.

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