#5 - Leslie and Stephen Shaw UFO/UAP Experts | Podcast

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#5 - Leslie and Stephen Shaw UFO/UAP Experts | Podcast Leslie and Stephen Shaw both have a lifelong love affair with the subject of ufology, they are very well read in the genre and both consider themselves to be armchair ufologists. They’ve both been UFO witnesses. Stephen and his extended family all have had missing time incidents and are likely to be UFO abductees. They’re motivation for writing this book is to find answers for the many people who have been the victims of UFO abduction. In researching this book they added many more books to their already extensive list of read material and have watched every UFO-related program or film available today. Leslie Shaw has been a journalist for the last 18 years. She is now semi-retired, working only part time for a newspaper, and she decided to write this book with her new-found extra time. Stephen is her fellow researcher, theorist and sound board for the project. Leslie Shaw was born in downtown Los Angeles in 1959. She has been writing, drawing and painting since childhood. She attended El Camino College part time for a few years. She majored in fine art with a minor in art history, including ancient art history studies. She transferred to the prestigious California Institute of the Arts. She graduated from CAL ARTS with a bachelor’s degree in experimental animation. Leslie worked in motion control camera effects for movies and television for five years, then in television for nine years doing computer animation. After moving to the high desert she began doing computer graphics for the Hi-Desert Star and then moved into the editorial department where she worked as a journalist and paginator for 17 years. She is now semi-retired but still works for the newspaper part time. Both Leslie and Stephen are lifelong science fiction fan, and also very well read in this genre. She has written news articles, poetry and has now completed her first book, “Who They Are, and What They’re Up To,” in which she expounds on her theories about UFOs and the beings who are flying them. She and her husband Stephen now reside in Desert Hot Springs in Southern California. Stephen Shaw’s education began at the Montessori School. He developed a proclivity for languages, music, math and the sciences. Stephen writes, records and performs classical and jazz music. He served six years in the US Navy. He worked with his father as a cabinetmaker and builder while putting himself through medical school. He was a state-licensed practitioner of Chinese medicine and acupuncture for 20 years and a teacher of the Yang and Chen styles of Tai Chi Chuan for 23 years. Stephen studied geology in college and is a life-long rock hound. He wrote the content for a website detailing methods using homeopathy and Chinese medicine as adjacent treatments for cancer. Stephen’s family has a long, multi-generational history of strange, other-worldly phenomena. For more on this, read the Preface.