S8 E6: Like teacher, like student: Showing up as your full self, with Dr. Jasmine Rogers

Science of Reading: The Podcast

Returning guest and recent doctoral degree recipient Dr. Jasmine Rogers rejoins the podcast to discuss findings from her research on Black language and teacher perceptions of Black language. Dr. Rogers shares strategies for how educators can better serve students by allowing them to be more themselves in the classroom. She also shares specific teacher approaches she's observed that listeners can apply in their own classrooms. Lastly Dr. Rogers inspires listeners with emotional stories—including her own—about educators learning and growing, and posits that starting with introspection can often have the greatest impact on the classroom.
Show notes:

• Listen: Jasmine’s first appearance on Science of Reading: The Podcast
• Read: “The Importance of Phonemic Awareness Instruction for African American Students” by Ramona T. Pittman, Marianne Rice, Esther Garza, and Myriam J. Guerra
• Read: “Difference or Deficit in Speakers of African American English?” by Linda M. Bland-Stewart
• Reference: “Phonemic Inventories and Cultural and Linguistic Information Across Languages,” American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA)

Quotes:

"You address people as human beings because they're human and that's the right thing to do." —Dr. Jasmine Rogers
"The history of our country, the history of who we are as individuals in our families, absolutely impacts who we are as teachers and how we show up in the classroom." —Dr. Jasmine Rogers
"A lot of change is just being open to feedback, being curious, and ensuring that whatever you are doing, you are not causing harm to students." —Dr. Jasmine Rogers
"If I was able to make a change, you 110 percent can make a change. And a lot of that is just being open to feedback, being curious, and ensuring that whatever you are doing, you are not causing harm to students." —Dr. Jasmine Rogers
Episode Content Timestamps*

2:00: Recap of the last episode with Dr. Jasmine Rogers
4:00: How teachers respond when students use Black language in their lessons and how that impacts student behavior
11:00: Observation on teacher moves in the classroom, pre and post professional development
23:00: Tips for educators wanting to be more affirming in the classroom
26:00: Resources for learning the phonological features of different languages & the importance of relationship building and knowing your students
31:00: How we teach irregularly spelled words & syllable stresses
35:00: Emotional stories from educators & final encouragement from Dr. Jasmine Rogers
*Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute