The world is hitting a point where it is impossible to have conversations. Disagreeing with someone means they must be a fool, so there is no reason to talk. We need to get back to discourse! We need to be willing to hear another person’s opinion! We need to wrestle with thoughts, and faith, and all those things together! This podcast seeks to open up conversation in the best method I have ever found; with a beer and a pipe… or cigar! Cinder & Hops invites you to sit down with me, and my guest, each episode! Grab a beer & a smoke, listen in & enjoy the conversation!