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Counsel to Counsel - Career Advice for Lawyers

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A tartalmat a Stephen Seckler, Stephen Seckler: attorney career, and Leadership coach biztosítja. Az összes podcast-tartalmat, beleértve az epizódokat, grafikákat és podcast-leírásokat, közvetlenül a Stephen Seckler, Stephen Seckler: attorney career, and Leadership coach vagy a podcast platform partnere tölti fel és biztosítja. Ha úgy gondolja, hogy valaki az Ön engedélye nélkül használja fel a szerzői joggal védett művét, kövesse az itt leírt folyamatot https://hu.player.fm/legal.

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You're not supposed to be here and other Dad wisdom 29:22

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The world often feels rigged. And this episode is a wake-up call to recognize the barriers that exist for those who don’t fit the traditional mold. In this episode, which is a kind of tribute to my dear departed Dad, I recount some powerful lessons from the man who was a brilliant psychiatrist and my biggest champion. He taught me that if something feels off about the environment you’re in, it probably is—and it’s absolutely hella-not your fault. We dare to break into the uncomfortable truth that many workplaces are designed for a very specific demographic, leaving neurodivergent individuals, particularly those on the autism spectrum, feeling excluded. I share three stories in which my Dad imparted to me more than my fair share of his wisdom, and I'm hoping you to can feel empowered. You'll learn that we can advocate for ourselves and others to create a more inclusive work culture. Newsletter Paste this into your browser if the newsletter link is broken - https://www.lbeehealth.com/ Join our Patreon - https://differentnotbrokenpodcast.com/patreon Mentioned in this episode: Sign Up For Our Newsletter Stay updated on all the things! Get added to our newsletter mailing list. Newsletter…

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Counsel to Counsel is a periodic podcast produced by Stephen Seckler of Seckler Attorney Coaching (www.counseltocounsel.com). It addresses important career, marketing, and leadership issues facing attorneys. The target audience is associates, counsel and partners at law firms of all sizes; but the podcast also addresses issues that are relevant to in-house counsel, law students or any lawyer who is looking for career insights inside or outside of the law. Counsel to Counsel is aimed at individual lawyers who are looking to increase their own career satisfaction and build their marketing and leadership skills. The podcast features interviews with leading consultants, career professionals and marketing experts who advise attorneys on careers, marketing, law firm management and related issues. The guests are also a roster of successful attorneys who have found career satisfaction inside and outside the law. Counsel to Counsel is a direct outgrowth of the blog Counsel to Counsel which Stephen Seckler has been publishing since 2005. Since graduating from law school in the late 1980s, Stephen Seckler has been advising lawyers on career and marketing issues and working with a broad mix of law firms and corporate law departments. He began blogging when legal blogging was in its infancy and his blog Counsel to Counsel was named to the ABA Journal’s Blawg 100 in 2007 and 2008 (the first two years that list was in existence). Steve has written extensively on career and marketing issues and he has spoken at many law school, law firm and bar association events. He served on the Boston Bar Association’s Standing Committee on Work Life Balance and was Vice Chair of the Law Practice Management Section of the Massachusetts Bar Association. He is active in the Senior Lawyers Division of the American Bar Association, the ProVisors business network, and has been quoted frequently in the legal and business press.

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Episode 154- The Latest Research from the NALP Foundation and What it Means for Your Career 40:58

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In this episode, Steve speaks with the administrative team at the NALP Foundation, a nonprofit research organization focused on the advancement of the legal profession. They explore recent data on associate hiring, attrition, and retention—highlighting what lawyers can learn from these trends to shape more satisfying careers. 💡 Topics Covered: Why lawyers are leaving law firms—and why some are choosing to stay The top factors driving associate retention (hint: it’s not just about money) What the research says about generational differences and shifting career expectations How to use data to be more intentional about your career development Advice for lawyers feeling disengaged or considering alternative paths 🎧 Whether you're early in your legal career or at a crossroads, this episode offers practical insights for anyone looking to navigate a more fulfilling professional path.…

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Episode 153- The Role of Job Boards in Career Exploration 6:46

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In this episode, I take another break from interviewing guests to share some quick thoughts on how to use job boards effectively in your job search. While I spend a lot of time encouraging clients to make networking the central focus of their career exploration, job postings still have value—if used strategically. I share practical tips on how to leverage listings for market research, generate new ideas, and customize your applications to stand out.…

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Episode 152: Practical Applications for AI in Your Law Practice with Jonathan White 40:53

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In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Jonathan White , a Boston-based trusts and estates attorney and a self-described AI enthusiast. Jonathan shares practical insights into how he is using artificial intelligence tools to streamline his law practice and enhance client service. He also reflects on his career transitions—from litigation to insurance defense, to real estate, and finally to trusts and estates—and how his current involvement with Atticus is helping him and other lawyers build more fulfilling and profitable practices. 🎧 Topics Covered: Jonathan’s career path: from civil litigation to trusts and estates What inspired him to embrace AI in his legal practice Practical applications of AI Best practices and cautions for using AI in a legal setting (10-80-10 rule, client disclosure) His involvement with Atticus and his path to becoming a coach 🛠️ AI Tips for Lawyers: Start with one or two tools and go deep Disclose AI usage in your client engagement agreements Verify all AI output—use human judgment to review Use AI as a support, not a replacement…

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Episode 151-Why I Wrote Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur 5:14

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In this episode, I’m taking a break from interviewing guests to share some exciting news—my new book, Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur , is being published by the American Bar Association in late March! If you’ve ever struggled with marketing yourself or felt uncomfortable with business development, this book is for you. As lawyers, we’re trained to be analytical and risk-averse—great for legal work, but not always helpful when it comes to growing a practice. In the book, I share practical strategies to help you shift your mindset, build relationships, and integrate marketing into your professional life in a way that feels natural. Tune in to hear about my own journey with business development, why I wrote this book, and how it can help you market yourself without feeling like a salesperson. To order, click here .…

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Episode 150-Growing Your Law Firm with Dominic Grew 30:41

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In this episode, business coach Dominic Grew returns to discuss how solo and small firm lawyers can strategically grow their practices without overextending themselves. Dominic shares practical insights on leveraging time, outsourcing non-billable tasks, and using fractional resources before committing to full-time hires. Key Topics: When to consider hiring support staff or associates The benefits of fractional hires and outsourcing tasks like bookkeeping and IT Avoiding common mistakes when expanding a law practice How to balance delegation while maintaining quality Real-world scenarios: Hiring a first employee, sharing an associate, and weighing contract help vs. joining a larger firm Why You Should Listen: If you’ve ever wondered how to scale your law firm while maintaining efficiency and profitability, this episode provides actionable strategies to help you make informed decisions about growth. Additional Resources: Episode 110: Getting to No – Turning Leads into Business with Dominic Grew…

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Episode 149—Turning Business Conversations into Business—a Role-Play with Gary Johnson 49:01

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In this episode, host Stephen Seckler welcomes back Gary Johnson, president of J2 Marketing Consultants , for a dynamic session of role-playing client intakes. They explore how lawyers can turn initial business conversations into productive relationships. Gary, an expert in coaching attorneys on growing their practices, shares practical techniques for understanding client needs, building trust, and addressing objections. Role-play scenarios include consultations with a restaurant owner expanding his business, a divorcing client navigating complex emotions and custody issues, and parents of a special needs child seeking estate planning advice. Each scenario highlights the importance of active listening, empathy, and providing tailored solutions. Gary also emphasizes the long-term value of relationship-building in legal marketing. This episode is packed with actionable insights for lawyers aiming to enhance their client interactions and business development strategies. Additional Resources Episode 74-Turning Business Conversations into Business-with Gary Johnson Episode 144-Turning Business Contacts into Business: Lessons From the 2024 Election Episode 110-Dominic Grew on “Getting to No”-Turning Leads into Business and Other Ways to Succeed in Private Practice…

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Episode 148-Strategic Marketing for Law Firms with Carrie Flynn 36:06

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In this episode, host Stephen Seckler sits down with Carrie Flynn , a fractional CMO and growth marketing consultant, to explore the evolving landscape of marketing for lawyers and law firms. Carrie brings over eight years of experience helping professional service businesses scale their revenue and impact through tailored digital and traditional marketing strategies. Together, they unpack the essential elements of building a robust marketing plan that balances relationship-building with digital tools. Key Topics Discussed: Marketing Fundamentals for Law Firms: How to identify your ideal client and develop targeted messaging to stand out in a competitive market. The Power of Diversification: Combining referral marketing with digital strategies like email marketing, social media, and SEO to drive consistent lead generation. Data-Driven Strategies: Leveraging past performance to inform future marketing decisions and optimize results. AI in Legal Marketing: The opportunities and ethical considerations when incorporating AI into your marketing efforts. Actionable Steps: Tips for creating a focused 90-day marketing plan and evaluating its impact. Carrie also shares her journey from public school teacher to marketing consultant and offers insights into how law firms can establish effective marketing practices that drive growth without sacrificing work/life balance.…

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Episode 147-Your Legal Career: If It’s Broke, Fix It or Move On? 36:22

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In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler is joined by Susanne Aronowitz , a senior consultant with Beard Strategies and a Professional Certified Coach, to discuss career transitions and job satisfaction for lawyers. Susanne shares her journey from employment attorney to career coach, offering insights drawn from her 25 years of experience. Together, they explore how lawyers can address career dissatisfaction, identify whether issues are fixable within their current role, and recognize when it’s time to move on. Susanne also provides actionable advice on navigating involuntary job loss, reframing layoffs as opportunities for growth, and leveraging networking for successful transitions. The conversation covers strategies for improving job satisfaction, such as proposing changes to employers, adjusting responsibilities, and exploring complementary practice areas. Susanne highlights the importance of self-care and managing negative self-talk during career transitions, as well as practical steps for processing emotions and maintaining professionalism in the face of job loss. Packed with valuable tips and inspiring success stories, this episode offers a roadmap for lawyers seeking fulfillment and balance in their careers. Don’t miss Susanne’s expert guidance on turning challenges into opportunities! For more information, visit Susanne's website or contact her directly. Additional Resources Strategies for Prioritizing Well-Being in Attorney Job Searches and Career Development Episode 142-Winning in Your Own Court with Dena Lefkowitz Episode 135-Tackling Mental Health Issues in the Law with Amy Levine and LCL ·…

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Episode 146-Nancy Capistran on Using Peer Advisory Groups and Individual Coaching to Build Leadership Skills 35:05

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In this episode of the Counsel to Counsel podcast, host Stephen Seckler engages with Nancy Capistran, founder of Capistran Leadership and a Vistage chair, to delve into the transformative impact of peer advisory groups and executive coaching. Nancy, an internationally certified executive coach and crisis advisor, is renowned for her commitment to Expanding Human Excellence®. She is also the author of the best-selling book Open Your Eyes and LEAD: Hardship and Wisdom Shape the Best Leaders in Life , which offers insights into overcoming challenges to achieve exceptional results. In this conversation, Nancy shares how group coaching fosters leadership growth through collaborative learning, diverse perspectives, and collective problem-solving. She also distinguishes between group and one-on-one coaching, emphasizing how each format can transform leaders both personally and professionally. Whether you’re a legal professional or a business executive, this episode provides practical insights into leadership development and maximizing your potential. Additional Resources Episode 130-Emotional Intelligence and EQ i-2.0 With Susan Schwartz Episode 129-Law Firm Leadership with Kristi Royse Ted Lasso (?TV+) and Lessons in Leadership and Performance 15 Tips for Leadership Success…

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Episode 145-“Earley” Mistakes to Avoid When Starting Your Own Law Practice 34:47

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Starting your own law practice is a bold and rewarding move, but it comes with its share of challenges. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler sits down with Chris Earley , a Massachusetts-based personal injury attorney and business coach, to discuss lessons from his journey building the Earley Law Group from scratch. Chris shares insights from his ABA article, "Five Mistakes to Avoid When Starting Your Law Practice," and offers actionable advice for attorneys looking to take the leap into entrepreneurship. Chris recounts the early days of his practice, launching in 2005 with no cases, money, or connections, and the hustle it took to get his firm off the ground. He emphasizes the importance of networking and creative marketing, lessons he learned the hard way. Chris also reflects on how shifting his mindset from being a lawyer to being a business owner transformed his approach to growth. From leveraging his last name in branding to building a strong referral network, Chris’s story is packed with practical tips for standing out in a crowded market. The episode also explores the evolution of personal injury law, including trends like safer cars and self-driving technology that are reshaping the field. Chris discusses the challenges of scaling a practice, managing stress, and staying present for his family. Whether you're a new lawyer considering starting your own firm or an experienced practitioner looking to refine your approach, this conversation will inspire and equip you to navigate the path ahead with confidence. Additional Resources Five Mistakes to Avoid When Starting Your Own Law Practice (ABA membership required)…

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Episode 144-Turning Business Contacts into Business: Lessons From the 2024 Election 8:52

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In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler shares insights from his recent experiences volunteering during the 2024 election. Drawing lessons from the power of listening in political campaigns, Steve explores how lawyers can apply the same principles to business development. He emphasizes that active listening and understanding client concerns are key to building trust and turning relationships into business opportunities. Steve breaks down practical strategies for lawyers: Ask open-ended questions to uncover client needs. Help clients articulate the urgency of solving their problems. Position yourself as a problem-solver, not a salesperson. Build trust by guiding clients through a thoughtful, solution-focused process. Tune in to learn how these strategies can help you grow your practice authentically and effectively.…

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Episode 143-The Longevity Revolution with Judith Kurnick 40:09

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In this episode Steve Seckler speaks with Judith Kurnick , an executive transition coach who specializes in guiding late-career lawyers, executives, and business owners as they navigate career transitions. Judith delves into the “longevity revolution,” the idea that professionals in their 60s can expect to live and thrive for another 25-30 years. She shares strategies for overcoming challenges like ageism, health concerns, financial planning, and maintaining relevance while transitioning from demanding roles. The episode provides practical advice on shifting mindsets, exploring new roles, and developing personalized plans to stay productive, engaged, and fulfilled in later career stages. Judith also emphasizes the importance of repurposing skills rather than retiring, helping listeners rethink what’s possible in their next chapter. Judith Kurnick is an executive transition coach, speaker, and writer with over 35 years of experience as a strategic communications leader. Drawing from her background as a former classical musician, C-suite executive, and consultant, she helps clients create personalized plans to remain relevant, productive, and energized as they move into the next stages of their careers. Additional Resources and Episodes Episode 134-Law Firm Succession Planning with David Wood Episode 67-Retirement By Design (for Lawyers) Succession Planning for Your Career-What Comes Next…

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Episode 142-Winning in Your Own Court with Dena Lefkowitz 33:54

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In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Stephen Seckler welcomes Dena Lefkowitz , a professional coach and former practicing attorney who helps lawyers navigate the complexities of career development, marketing, and finding professional fulfillment. Dena practiced law for over 20 years before transitioning to coaching and has authored the book Winning in Your Own Court , published by the American Bar Association. The book has garnered notable recognition, including the Nautilus Silver Award for Inner Prosperity & Right Livelihood. Together, Stephen and Dena discuss key insights from the book, focusing on how lawyers can take control of their careers, improve well-being, and discover greater satisfaction in their work. Tune in as they explore topics such as why attorneys often become dissatisfied in their careers, strategies for managing burnout, the importance of self-awareness, and practical steps for improving time management. They also delve into networking, setting boundaries, and how lawyers can embrace change in their professional lives. This episode is packed with actionable advice for attorneys seeking to boost their career satisfaction while maintaining balance and personal fulfillment. Related Episodes and Resources Episode 139-Conquering Perfectionism in the Practice of Law with Jordana Confino Episode 135-Tackling Mental Health Issues in the Law with Amy Levine and LCL Episode 122-For the Sake of Your Mental Health, Stop Thinking (and Acting) Like a Lawyer…

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Episode 141-Co-Mediation with Jeff Soilson, Esq. and Ashleigh Louis Ph.D. 45:55

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In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, I am joined by Jeffrey Soilson, Esq. and Ashleigh Louis, Ph.D., founders of Quantum ADR, an innovative co-mediation practice. Quantum ADR takes an interdisciplinary approach to conflict resolution by combining Jeff's 25 years of family law expertise with Ashleigh's deep understanding of psychology. Together, they offer a unique "two-coach" model that addresses both the legal and emotional aspects of disputes, creating a more holistic process for their clients. In this episode, Jeff and Ashleigh share their insights into how their combined expertise helps clients navigate complex situations like divorce, co-parenting, and even workplace conflicts while also fostering skills for conflict prevention. The conversation highlights the distinct advantages of having both legal and psychological perspectives in mediation, such as the ability to understand emotional blockages that often hinder resolution and the importance of aligning clients’ actions with their core values. Jeff and Ashleigh describe how their model aims to prevent future conflicts by helping clients resolve their inner struggles, ultimately leading to more effective and lasting agreements. They also discuss how their co-mediation practice is structured to be more cost-efficient compared to traditional litigation, allowing clients to save both time and money while receiving comprehensive support through the mediation process. Tune in to learn how this innovative approach to mediation could redefine how we think about dispute resolution.…

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Episode 140- Naïs Mouret on Emotional Intelligence, Physical Well-being, and the Practice of Law 31:39

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In this episode of Counsel to Counsel , host Steve Seckler interviews Naïs Mouret, a global leadership advisor and certified emotional intelligence consultant. Naïs shares insights on the critical role of emotional intelligence (EI) and physical well-being in the legal profession. Drawing on her experience working at the United Nations and her extensive background in leadership consulting, she highlights how empathy, resilience, and mindfulness are essential tools for both professional success and personal satisfaction. Naïs emphasizes the importance of developing EI to better connect with clients and colleagues, particularly in high-pressure environments like law firms. Naïs also discusses the profound impact of physical well-being on professional performance, advocating for small, practical steps that lawyers can integrate into their daily routines to enhance both mental and physical health. From mindfulness exercises to movement breaks, she shares tips on how busy legal professionals can foster resilience and maintain balance. This episode provides valuable advice for young lawyers on building long-term success by prioritizing both emotional intelligence and personal well-being. Related Episodes and Resources Episode 139-Conquering Perfectionism in the Practice of Law with Jordana Confino Episode 135-Tackling Mental Health Issues in the Law with Amy Levine and LCL Episode 130-Emotional Intelligence and EQ i-2.0 With Susan Schwartz How Developing Emotional Intelligence Will Lead to Long-term Success for Lawyers The Power of Physical Wellbeing - Beyond Self-help and Mental Health Practices [Reach out to Stephen Seckler for PDF versions of articles]…

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Episode 124-Lauren Rikleen on Social Justice and Defending American Democracy 40:16

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In this episode, I speak with my first “threepeat” guest, Lauren Rikleen. This is Lauren’s third appearance on Counsel to Counsel. She was actually one of my first guests when I launched the show in 2018. In that episode, we spoke about success strategies for women and the work she has done on that issue. In the Spring of 2022,I invited Lauren back to talk more about her legal career including working in the field of environmental law as it was just taking off. We also spoke about what inspired her to make a career shift away from the practice of law. If you haven’t already listened to it, I invite you to go back to episode 81. I met Lauren in the early 1990s when I was at Massachusetts Continuing Legal Education and later had the privilege of sitting on her Standing Committee on Work/Life Balance when she was President of the Boston Bar Association. I knew soon after I met her that Lauren is someone who is not afraid to speak up when she sees injustice. She is also a person with a big heart who cares not only about making an impact but also about investing in the success of professionals who come from disadvantaged groups. Most importantly, she laughs at most of my jokes and keeps me laughing as well. I invited Lauren back because she is the editor of a new book entitled Her Honor. Her Honor is an inspiring compendium of the lives of 25 female judges including many judges of color. Most of these judges were women who overcame significant gender and racial discrimination to get to the bench and all of them are judges who felt a great sense of responsibility to continue the fight for racial and gender equity. I also invited her back to talk about the important work that she is doing through Lawyers Defending American Democracy. Lauren Rikleen is President of the Rikleen Institute for Strategic Leadership . She is also the Executive Director of Lawyers Defending American Democracy . Additional Episodes Episode 87-The Advancement of Women in Law with Elise Holtzman Episode 81-Lauren Rikleen-Rebel with Many Causes…

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Episode 123-Setting Your 2024 Goals and Creating Your “To Don't" List with Jennifer Forester and Wendy Merrill 45:53

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December is a great time to take stock, hit the reset button, and do some planning. With 2024 around the corner, I’ve been speaking with my clients about setting goals for the new year. I’m not talking about making New Year’s resolutions. It's important to understand that resolutions and goals are not the same. Resolutions often lack specificity and a plan of action, making them easy to abandon. On the other hand, setting clear, well-defined goals lays a foundation for measurable progress and sustained success. In this episode, I’m pleased to welcome Wendy Merrill and Jennifer Forester , two great coaches who also work with the legal community. Jen and Wendy are also talking right now to their clients about goal setting and they have some great tips to share. In our conversation, we speak about setting marketing and business development goals for your law practice. But Wendy and Jen also have some thoughts about other areas in your professional and personal life where setting goals can help ensure that you are moving forward in all aspects of your life. They also discuss creating a “To Don’t” list. Jennifer Forester helps lawyers avoid random acts of marketing. She’s a business development coach for corporate and consumer attorneys, drawing on 20 years of experience in sales, marketing, and client service roles with big law and boutiques. Jen lives in northern California with her two Boxer dogs and her husband, who is a family law attorney. Wendy Merrill is a growth strategist, thought leader, and founder of StrategyHorse. StrategyHorse is a consulting firm dedicated to improving law firm profitability through alignment and engagement strategies. For over a decade, Wendy has been working with lawyers and firms to revolutionize the practice of law. Wendy lives in the DC area. Additional Resources Episode 109-Sarah Tetlow on Delegating and Dealing with Distraction Episode 57- Billable Work v. Investment Hours (Dr. Sarah Reiff-Hekking on Time Management)…

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Episode 122-For the Sake of Your Mental Health, Stop Thinking (and Acting) Like a Lawyer 6:29

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As attorneys, we share many qualities that make us effective in representing our clients. Our skepticism, aversion to risk, sense of urgency, competitiveness, and pessimism, can all be good for out clients. But when it comes to building a practice, advancing our careers, or taking on leadership roles, we are more effective when we remove our lawyering hats. As it turns out, these qualities can also have a pernicious effect on our mental health. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, I share my thoughts on why it is important to stop thinking and acting like a lawyer in social situations. Additional Resources Stop Thinking (and Acting) Like a Lawyer–unless you are giving legal advice! Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers of Massachusetts - free and confidential mental health and substance abuse services for attorneys (check your state bar for similar resources in other states) Episode 70-Shailini George on Doing Well and Being Well in the Law…

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Episode 121-John Buckley on Building Your Executive Presence 51:33

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It is axiomatic that if you want to have a successful legal career, you need to learn your craft. Most areas of legal practice require highly refined analytical abilities coupled with good judgment. For the most part, the first developmental task of any new lawyer is to learn how to practice law. But if you want to advance in your career, you need to be more than a good technician. Demonstrating executive presence is also key. In this episode, I am pleased to introduce John Buckley , Board Secretary and General Counsel for the North Carolina operations of a multinational mobility infrastructure company. John talks about how building your executive presence is critical to advancing your career, especially if you want to want to take on leadership responsibilities. In a great conversation, John discusses what executive presence is, who needs it, and what it looks like. He offers his practical tips on how increase your own executive presence. Over the summer, I heard John give a great presentation on this topic for the American Bar Association and I decided I had to have him on the show. Lucky for me, he accepted my invitation right away. John Buckley has served 3 times as the first in-house counsel for start-ups. He has 15 years of solo/small law department General Counsel experience. He began his professional life as an engineer for Duke Power. Additional Resources Ted Lasso (🍎TV+) and Lessons in Leadership and Performance 15 Tips for Leadership Success Episode 118-Paths to Partnership in 2023 and Beyond-With Laura Terrell Episode 103-Ben Sachs on Building High-Performance Legal Teams Episode 87-The Advancement of Women in Law with Elise Holtzman Episode 80-Leadership for Lawyers-Moving Up in Your Law Firm or Corporate Law Department…

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Episode 120-Scaling Your Law Firm with AI 39:03

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Artificial Intelligence continues to be a big unknown in the legal space. It holds tremendous promise for streamlining the delivery of legal services and is already being deployed to expedite discovery, to help draft contracts, to assist with client intake, and to streamline many other functions that once required a lot more human labor. AI is now being used by some lawyers to help assess the strength of their cases, to expedite legal research, and to draft pleadings. I know that I myself am using ChatGPT to help me prepare for presentations, craft social media posts, and to get quickly up to speed on an array of subjects that are of interest to my clients. At the same time, the use of AI raises legitimate ethical concerns. It also raises concerns about the need for so many lawyers. But according to my guest, Hamid Kohan , AI won’t replace lawyers. It will replace lawyers and other professionals who don’t use AI. Hamid Kohan is a serial entrepreneur, public speaker, and author of the book How to Scale Your Stupid AI Law Firm . Hamid started his career in silicon valley where he served as Director of Business Development of Sun Microsystems, working alongside Eric Schmidt who is today the CEO of Google and Carol Bartz the CEO of Yahoo. More recently, Hamid saw an opportunity to bring his expertise in technology and business development to the legal world, and he founded Legal Soft Inc. in 2016. In this episode, Hamid will answer some questions about where we are in 2023 with the use of AI in the practice of law. Other Resources Episode 107-ChatGPT and Trends in Legal Marketing Technology-with Jared Correia…

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Episode 119-From Law Firm Associate to In-House Operations-With Shawn Hoyt 37:41

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In the past year, I’ve done a number of interviews with lawyers who have transitioned from the traditional practice of law into other corporate or consulting roles. In this episode, I speak with Shawn Hoyt about how to transition into an operations role in a corporate environment. Shawn is someone who has thought a lot about managing his own career and he has a unique perspective on career advancement. Shawn Hoyt is a Vice President at OutSystems. He began his legal career as a corporate associate at a large law firm. In 1999, I actually recruited him to his first in-house legal job. Over time, his responsibilities expanded way beyond legal. Shawn brings an unusual perspective on how to get more from your legal career and how to transition into much broader roles. Shawn is a senior legal and operational executive who has led a broad range of teams through periods of both rapid growth and transition. He has deep functional experience running commercial, Deal Desk, pricing, proposal/RFP, contracting, deal operations, vendor management, and legal teams. But he has also managed People, Talent Acquisition, Office Operations, IT, Security, Finance, and Leadership operations through periods of transition. Related Episodes · Episode 114-From Biglaw to In-house to Business Role and Back Again with Carl Berglind · Episode 113-From Litigation to Trial Consulting with Marc Diller Episode 112-From Corporate Counsel to Management Consultant-Leveraging Your Legal Career with David Lesser…

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Episode 118-Paths to Partnership in 2023 and Beyond-With Laura Terrell 40:48

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Achieving partnership was once the goal of most law firm associates. The rules were relatively simple. Work hard, do a good job, and after several years, get rewarded by being elevated. Today the law firms are more complex. Many associates entering the practice of law do not aspire to become partners, at least not at the first firm they join. And at many firms, there are different paths to success which don’t include equity partnership. So, how should a young associate navigate these new realities? What is the path to partnership in the 2020s and what are other ways to define success in private practice. How do you get there? What is the impact of hybrid work arrangements on career advancement and professional development? My guest Laura Terrell has some answers. Laura Terrell is an executive coach with over 25 years of professional experience as a legal and business leader. Prior to launching her coaching practice, Laura was a Special Assistant to the President at the White House, a senior level appointee at the US Department of Justice, an equity partner in two large global law firms, and in-house counsel at a major global consulting and business advisory firm. Laura has led and managed teams of hundreds of people across multiple countries and has been a top advisor for many Fortune 500 and FTSE 100 companies. Her clients come from a wide variety of industries, including law, education, financial services, pharmaceutical, oil & gas, non-profit, health care, and technology. Some of them are senior corporate executives like CEOs and general counsels; others are lawyers and consultants, entrepreneurs, and small business owners, as well as professionals who may be returning to the workforce, making a pivot to a new career, or switching roles mid-career. Laura is my favorite kind of guest because she has such a broad perspective on the legal industry and has experienced legal careers from all sides. Additional Resources Episode 80-Leadership for Lawyers-Moving Up in Your Law Firm or Corporate Law Department Episode 73-Managing and Advancing Your Law Firm Career…

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Episode 117-Nailing the Job Interview-A View From Both Sides of the Table with Amy Katz and Nancy Reiner 38:22

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Job interviews can cause a lot of stress. Over the years, I’ve come to appreciate that this is true whether you are the candidate or the interviewer. The stakes can feel high. Both sides are trying to assess whether they are right for each other. The candidate may be imagining that they are interviewing for their dream job. They may be worried about the competition. The interviewer may have a desperate need to fill a role and there are few candidates with the right mix of skills and personality. Or worse, they made a bad hire and they are now trying to fix the problem. But just like dating, neither side will really know what it is like to be married until they are actually living together. So what are some ways that candidates and employers can prepare for a good interview? What can candidates and interviewers do to make themselves more attractive to each other? How can candidates and employers get the information they need to make an informed decision about whether to extend an offer or accept an offer? In this episode, I have invited two seasoned recruiters who share their collective wisdom. Both are members of the in-house legal recruiting team at the search firm Major Lindsey and Africa. Amy Katz is a returning guest on Counsel to Counsel. Amy recently rejoined the team at Major Lindsey after spending a year recruiting in-house for her old employer Outside GC. I last spoke to Amy about her journey from big law to in-house to OutsideGC, and finally into recruiting. Amy’s career experience includes over 25 years as a practicing employment attorney. Prior to joining MLA the first time, Amy was a Member at Outside GC, advising employers on a wide range of employment law matters, conducting workplace and academic investigations, and designing and delivering compliance training. Before that, she served as senior employment counsel for Genzyme Corporation. Today, she focuses on recruiting general counsel and other in-house attorneys in a wide range of industries, most notably life sciences and technology. My second guest is Amy’s colleague, Nancy Reiner who spent over 20 years in private practice including stints at two major firms. She last served as a partner at Brown Rudnick where she worked on business, environmental and public interest litigation. Nancy has been in the legal search business since 2008. Today she is the leader of the Boston In-House Counsel Recruiting team for MLA where she focuses on placement of general counsel and other in-house counsel for public companies and private businesses, major global corporations and disruptive start-ups, hospital and other healthcare systems, and colleges and universities. Nancy has placed close to 100 senior-level leaders in corporate legal departments throughout New England and across the country. Additional Resources Tips for a Successful Job Interview-Live and Virtual Episode 5-Nailing the Job Interview Episode 91-Transitioning Your Legal Career to In-house and Beyond With Amy Katz…

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Episode 116-Why Do Rankings and Awards Matter? It’s Not What You Think! 6:16

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The Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly Reader Rankings Awards are out, and I’m pleased to report that once again, I did very well. This year I came in first for Lawyer Outplacement and for Business Development Coach. I also came in second for Executive Coaching. So the subject of awards is top of mind for me this week. I’m happy to be in the winner’s circle and very thankful for the great clients and colleagues who took the time to support me. But do awards really matter? Listen in to this episode of Counsel to Counsel for my analysis.…

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Episode 115-Legal Hiring in 2023-A View From the Recruiters Desk with Emily Witt 41:11

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It has been over a year since I finally left the legal recruiting business to focus exclusively on coaching. Since the market has changed a lot since early 2022, I thought this would be a good time to invite someone who is still in the business to talk about the state of legal hiring. I also thought this would be a good time to revisit the topic of legal recruiting in general and who can benefit from working with a recruiter. Emily Witt is a legal recruiter with over 20 years of experience. She began her career as an in-house recruiter for Wachtell, Lipton in New York. In 2016, she moved over to the agency side and today, she places attorneys in both law firm and in-house positions. In particular, she enjoys focusing on women's advancement in both tech and healthcare. Emily hosts the podcast, Beyond the Legal Lens, that helps open the door to jobs in tech and health law. She also has a platform, the Advocate's Mic, that highlights mission-driven attorneys who are creating impactful initiatives in their communities. Emily shares her wisdom on the state of legal hiring in 2023 and offers some tips about working with a recruiter.…

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Episode 114-From Biglaw to In-house to Business Role and Back Again with Carl Berglind 34:45

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In the last two episodes of Counsel to Counsel, I spoke with a lawyer who left corporate practice for management consulting and a trial lawyer who has built a trial consulting business but continues to try cases. In this episode, I speak with a corporate lawyer who cut his teeth at international law firms, went in-house, moved into a business role, and is back again at an international law firm. Carl Berglind is a Shareholder with Greenberg Traurig’s Health Care & FDA group. He is based in Denver, Colorado. He focuses his practice on M&A and other complex transactions in the healthcare industry, representing both sellers and investors. In his business roles, Carl served as the CEO of an early stage animal health / AgTech company. He was also VP of M&A of a private equity backed ophthalmology platform, and Senior Vice President of Strategic Transactions at a Fortune 500 diversified health care services company. Carl was born in Sweden, and grew up in New York, Copenhagen, and Brussels. He speaks fluent Swedish and conversationally fluent French and Danish. He uses his background by working with international clients in addition to his domestic health care transactional practice. Additional Resources Episode 113-From Litigation to Trial Consulting with Marc Diller Episode 112-From Corporate Counsel to Management Consultant-Leveraging Your Legal Career with David Lesser Episode 96-David Abromowitz-Practicing Law in the Public Interest at an AmLaw200 Firm…

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Episode 113-From Litigation to Trial Consulting with Marc Diller 37:56

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In Episode 112 of Counsel to Counsel, I spoke with David Lesser, a corporate lawyer who transitioned into management consulting and quit his day job as a corporate lawyer. In this episode, I speak with a litigator who has transitioned into jury and trial consulting while keeping his day job as a litigator. Marc Diller is the managing partner of Diller Law, LLP . He concentrates his practice on plaintiff side wrongful death and catastrophic bodily injury cases. As a partner with Total Trial Solutions in Massachusetts, he also acts as a trial consultant to other well-respected trial attorneys. Marc serves on the Executive Committee for the Massachusetts Academy of Trial Attorney and as chair of the Judicial Administration Section Council of the Massachusetts Bar Association. He has been involved in some of the largest jury verdicts in the state of Massachusetts. Related Episodes Episode 112-From Corporate Counsel to Management Consultant-Leveraging Your Legal Career with David Lesser Episode 104-Freelance Lawyering and Returning to Work with Montage Legal Episode 56-Practicing Law with a Side Hustle (“Mindful Return”)…

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Episode 112-From Corporate Counsel to Management Consultant-Leveraging Your Legal Career with David Lesser 38:21

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When lawyers approach me to speak about their careers, one question they often ask is “what else can I do with my law degree”. The answer to that question is of course complex. As lawyers, we are trained to spot legal issues, evaluate risk, document deals, and litigate disputes. Most employers are not actively recruiting lawyers to do anything other than practice law. But that is not to say that lawyers are destined to be lawyers for eternity. As a lawyer, you do develop transferable skills that can make you valuable in other ways. The challenge, of course, is to figure out what that transition should look like and how you can best execute a job search when your resume speaks largely to the legal work you have done. One approach to find a bridge. Look for opportunities in an industry that you are already familiar with. Another approach is to take the experience you have in doing certain types of work and find something that leverages that experience. That is what my guest, David Lesser, did after a long and successful career as a corporate and finance attorney. David spent 17 years practicing in several large firms; but for the last several decades, he has run his own business consulting firm. He and I discuss how he made that transition, what were some of the challenges, what lessons he took from the practice of law, and what advice he has for anyone thinking of moving out of private practice. David Lesser is the founder and managing partner of the Klarian Capital Group in Chicago. He provides an array of management consulting services to small and middle market companies. He helps his clients with operational, financial, and strategic planning issues. I recently met Dave at a meeting of our ProVisors networking group and we soon discovered that we both grew up in the same town on Long Island. We also figured out that he was the water polo coach of one of the kids in my grade. More importantly, I was intrigued by the fact that he actually enjoyed being a lawyer when he left the practice. He didn’t run from the law. Addition Resources Episode 104-Freelance Lawyering and Returning to Work with Montage Legal Episode 103-Ben Sachs on Building High-Performance Legal Teams Episode 56-Practicing Law with a Side Hustle (“Mindful Return”)…

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Episode 111-Finding C.H.I.L.L. Referral Partners to Grow your Network and Your Business 9:28

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Relationship building is the key to growing your practice. But who should you be focusing on when it comes to relationship building? In this episode, Steve Seckler explains how the acronym C.H.I.L.L. can help you to make smart choices in finding the "right" professional relationships to cultivate. Additional Resources Episode 100-Word of Mouth Marketing with Michael Katz Episode 85-Peristence, Follow-Up, and Avoiding Fatal Attraction-Tips for Building Your Business Relationships Inexpensive Ways to Build Business Relationships…

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Episode 110-Dominic Grew on “Getting to No”-Turning Leads into Business and Other Ways to Succeed in Private Practice 36:38

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Like most lawyers, I went to law school because I wanted to enter an honorable profession. I wanted to have a career where the emphasis is on intellect and not on business. Not long after graduation, I realized that law IS a business and if you want to be successful, being a great lawyer is not enough. You need to learn how to run your practice efficiently. You need to learn how to manage people. And you need to learn how to sell your services. If you can master those skills, your chances of success will greatly increase. As I’ve noted many times on this program, sales is one area where many of us feel uncomfortable. As attorneys, we are supposed to be above that. People should hire us because we are good at what we do. In reality, that is not the way the world works. Just like practicing law requires a unique set of skills, so does selling our services. In this episode of Counsel to Counsel, Dominic and I discuss the business of law and some of the ways we can be more successful in our sales process. Dominic Grew is the Founder & Owner of Elevate Business Coaching, LLC. He is an expert in business management and business development. Prior to opening Elevate, he spent more than 25 years working internationally in the insurance and investment management sectors. As a former COO for Global Business Development, he learned how to scale to operational excellence and to prioritize and execute growth initiatives for complex and competing practice areas. Today, as Founder of Elevate Business Coaching, he partners with law firms and their lawyers to build, grow, and manage thriving practices. Dominic’s tools of choice are coaching, training and facilitation. He prides himself on bringing an outside perspective to the business of law, teaching attorneys to work smarter rather than harder to accomplish their business goals. Additional Resources Episode 100-Word of Mouth Marketing with Michael Katz Episode 74-Turning Business Conversations into Business…

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