In this abolition focused true crime podcast we will discuss case after case where a law enforcement officer has committed a crime and how our system of policing facilitated those crimes. Our criminal justice system isn’t broken, it was designed specifically to allow these types of things to happen. Our goal is to show people that cops often do more harm than good and that a new system is not only possible but necessary.
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Welcome to ‘Whispers in the Shadows’, your gateway into the nerve-wracking work of undercover policing. The true stories of a real-life undercover cop. I’m Michael Bates, an ex-undercover police officer, and this was my reality for over two years. If your fascinated by the truth that lies beneath crime shows, if you hunger for the real-life stories that leap beyond the boundaries of fiction, ‘Whispers in the Shadows’ is here to satisfy your curiosity. From infiltrating drug syndicates to liv ...
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"We refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.” Black and White and Thin Blue Lines is an original podcast created by two former police officers, Serge Antonin and Clarke Ahlers, who are inspired by the hopeful words of the Reverend Martin Luther King. Serge Antonin is African American. Clarke Ahlers is Caucasian. The podcast is a discussion about current issues in criminal justice and law enforcement, especially where these issues intersect the topic of race.
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Fake True stories from people behind and in front of that thin blue line. These stories in no way, represent any city, state, or federal agencies. These are just experiences and personal views of situations people have been through. Now that we got the B.S. out the way listen and enjoy. If you wanna support and keep the Henny flowing donate to the cause https://cash.app/$dayroomdaily Otherwise we gotta go back to E&J
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Insight into the world of Policing in UK and globally. PolicingTV is a new online platform for video and audio content that aims to provide insightful interviews, debates, and analysis, on policing and criminal justice issues. Policing Insight, CoPaCC and World Class Policing Awards founder Bernard Rix started the project with the UK leg of his Policing Friendship Tour. PolicingTV is the sister site to https://policinginsight.com/ - with consistent values aligned to global, progressive, poli ...
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Behind the Thin Blue Line - Episode 8, Best of (War Stories)
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Send us a text Ever wondered what it's like to live a double life, constantly teetering on the edge of danger? Join us as we step into the shoes of undercover officers who navigate this treacherous path daily. This special compilation episode of Behind the Thin Blue Line Podcast brings you firsthand accounts from the frontlines, featuring gripping …
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 7 with Mark Battersby - Part 2
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Send us a text What would you do if the very skills that kept you safe on the job became the source of your greatest challenges off the clock? Join us on "Behind the Thin Blue Line" as we continue our heartfelt conversation with Mark Battersby, a former police officer who bravely shares his turbulent transition into civilian life. Mark reveals the …
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 7 with Mark Battersby - Part 1
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Send us a text Have you ever wondered how a young man, with aspiration to be a fighter pilot, ends up serving as a police officer on the gritty streets of Victoria? Join me, Jason Somerville, as I sit down with former Victorian police officer Mark Battersby to unravel his fascinating journey. From the tender age of 19, Mark traded his father's voca…
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Send us a text Ever wondered how close an undercover operation can come to falling apart? Join me, Jason Somerville, as I recount one of the most nerve-wracking moments of my career. From narrowly escaping disaster during a high-stakes drug buy to improvising under the scrutiny of uniformed police officers, this episode will keep you on the edge of…
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Send us a text Ever wondered how an undercover narcotics officer manages to balance trust and deception while navigating life-threatening situations? Join me, Jason Somerville, as I recount some of the most intense and memorable moments from my time working undercover as Michael Bates in this gripping episode of Whisper in the Shadows. From the psy…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 6 with Ben Schultz - Part 3
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Send us a text What happens when the badge comes off but the hypervigilance remains? Join Jason Somerville and guest Ben Schultz as they recount their personal journeys from the high-stakes world of law enforcement to the unpredictable terrain of civilian life. Ben opens up about the challenges that come with relinquishing the authority inherent in…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 6 with Ben Schultz - Part 2
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Send us a text What happens when a police officer decides to trade the badge for the ballot? Join me, Jason Somerville, as I sit down with Ben Schultz, a former Northern Territory police officer who made that bold transition into politics. In this episode of "Behind the Thin Blue Line," Ben takes us through his journey from a police prosecutor to c…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 6 with Ben Schultz - Part 1
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Send us a text What does it take to transition from the adventurous life of a rock lobster diver to the demanding world of law enforcement in remote Australia? Join me, Jason Somerville, on today's episode of Behind the Thin Blue Line as I sit down with Ben Schultz, co-host of the Two Ordinary Cops podcast. Ben shares the intriguing story of how fa…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 5 with Greg Kingston - Part 2
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Send us a text Imagine standing at a regional roadblock in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, when every interaction is tinged with uncertainty and fear. Greg Kingston, a seasoned officer accustomed to handling firearms licensing, found himself reassigned and thrust into high-stress situations. During one domestic disturbance call, a woman’s …
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 5 with Greg Kingston - Part 1
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Send us a text What happens when a seasoned UK police officer moves across the globe to Australia? Join us in a compelling discussion with Greg Kingston, who takes us from his early days navigating the high-crime streets of Dover and Dartford to the intense world of surveillance operations. Discover the thrill and rigor of undercover work targeting…
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The 25th Amendment and Presidential Disability
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Send us a text Join summer intern and law clerk Lauren Pountnay, Serge Antonin, and Clarke Ahlers as they veer off the beaten path of criminal justice issues to discuss something that everybody is talking about: the 25th Amendment to the United States Constitution. This isn't a political diatribe. One (or maybe two) of the hosts make reference to a…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 4 with Garth Kirkwood - Part 2
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Send us a text What happens when an undercover cop's meticulously crafted facade comes crashing down? Join us on Behind the Thin Blue Line as Garth Kirkwood shares a gripping tale from his assignment at a luxury island resort. Garth recounts the tension-filled moments when his cover was almost blown by a former acquaintance. This episode sheds ligh…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 4 with Garth Kirkwood - Part 1
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Send us a text What drives someone to leave their childhood dream of working with computers behind to pursue a high-stakes career in law enforcement? Join us on "Behind the Thin Blue Line" as we sit down with Garth Kirkwood, a former Queensland police officer and undercover agent who now serves as a firefighter. Garth shares his compelling journey,…
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A Former Undercover Cop's Journey to Change
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Send us a text Ever wondered what it's like to walk the precarious line between law enforcement and the shadows of secrecy? Join me, Jason Somerville, as I unmask my true identity in the final episode of "Whisper in the Shadows." As a former undercover cop with the Queensland Police Service from 1991 to 2003, I'll share my journey from covert opera…
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Say her name: Rachel Morin
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Send us a text Say her name: Rachel Morin. On August 5th, 2023, Rachel -- a mother of five -- was murdered while exercising on the Ma & Pa Heritage Trail in Hartford County, Maryland. Rachel's family turned to Maryland attorney Randolph Rice, the managing partner of Rice, Murtha & Psoras for assistance. In today's episode, Randolph Rice describes t…
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From Small-Town Deals to Big-Time Risks
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Send us a text Ever wondered what it's like to live life undercover, balancing danger and deception at every turn? Join me, Michael Bates, as I take you through my rollercoaster journey in the latest episode of Whisper in the Shadows. Imagine securing a room at Jodie's place, only to face the peculiar challenges of maintaining a cover, like navigat…
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Live from the United States Courthouse in Wilmington, Delaware: The Biden Trial
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Send us a text Join Serge and Clarke and special guest Lauren Pountnay for this podcast about the Hunter Biden trial. Lauren is a rising senior at N.C. State. She is Clarke's intern/law clerk for the summer of 2024. Lauren and Clarke attended one day of the Hunter Biden trial in Delaware and are interviewed by Serge about the trial. If you follow t…
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The Tense Final Mission of an Undercover Cop
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Send us a text What if you had to adopt a new identity and integrate into a small community to bring down a criminal network? Join me, Michael Bates, as I recount the tension-filled twists of my final undercover mission. With my two-year tenure coming to an end, an urgent call thrust me into one last covert operation in a regional town. Maintaining…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 3 with Paul Milone Part 2
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Send us a text Ever wondered what lingers in the shadows of undercover policing? Grasp the unvarnished truths as I guide you through the precarious dance of maintaining aliases and the waning allure for officers to delve into these high-risk roles. Amidst the backdrop of societal shifts and eroding prosecutorial vigor, we shine a light on the brave…
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Send us a text In this episode, Serge and Clarke discuss a video of Sean "Diddy" Combs assaulting Cassandra "Cassie" Ventura in the hallway of the L.A. InterContinental Hotel in 2016 as well as the recent Homeland Security search warrant raids on Diddy owned properties in Los Angeles and Miami. Clarke offers Diddy's team some legal advice. Serge di…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 3 with Paul Milone Part 1
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Send us a text Every career path has its own set of stories and secrets, but few are as inherently riveting as those from behind the badge. In our latest podcast, we sit down with Paul, a seasoned former Omaha Police Officer and undercover narcotics officer, who shares the gripping chronicles of his law enforcement life. His book "Ram One" is a tes…
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Risk and Redemption in the Shadows
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Send us a text Have you ever walked a mile in the shoes of an undercover cop? I'm Michael Bates, and I'm peeling back the veil on the pulse-pounding world of covert police operations. My latest podcast episode plunges you into the heart of the action, where I share the intense strategy and stomach-churning risks that come with the territory. Every …
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Season IV -- Episode One: Okaloosa Shooting Death & Marilyn Mosby's Sentencing
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Send us a text Serge and Clarke begin Season IV with a discussion of the tragic shooting death of a United States Airman in his own home by a Deputy Sheriff in Okaloosa, Florida. Then Serge and Clarke discuss the efforts of Marilyn Mosby and her supporters, including the NAACP, to have the President of the United States pardon her before her senten…
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Navigating the Treacherous Terrains of Trust and Betrayal
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Send us a text Ever wondered what it's like to live on the edge of two worlds, balancing the fine line between law and crime? Imagine keeping your cool when a new supplier scrutinizes your every move, or tapping into the emotional veins of humanity as you witness the struggles of an informant facing her mortality. This episode takes you deep into t…
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The Ability to Discern Truth from Performance - The Art of Undercover Survival
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Send us a text Step into the shadow-laced world of undercover police work as I, Michael Bates, peel back the curtain on the dangerous game of living a double life amidst criminals. Imagine the ethical tightrope walked when a first night's conversation with Tiffany, a young stripper, blurs the lines between duty and humanity. Our exchange, under the…
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Artificial Intelligence Used in Genuine Stupidity and Crime!
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Send us a text In Baltimore County, Maryland a man has been arrested and accused of creating and publishing a recording that purported to be a high school principal making offensive racial remarks to the vice-principal. This is the new world of artificial intelligence and is the topic of a discussion between Serge and Clarke. Be assured: this episo…
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Speed Dealers and the Seductive Allure of Strip Clubs
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Send us a text Step into the underbelly of Australia's amphetamine scene with Michael Bates, a moniker that echoes from a covert past. This episode paints the stark realities of drug trade, contrasting the heroin hustle with the chaotic world of speed. Bates takes us through the clandestine corridors of makeshift meth labs, and the precarious dance…
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The Kenny Somers Story -- A Baltimore Tale -- Part 2
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Send us a text In part 2 of the podcast, Kenny Somers reflects on the arrest, his incarceration, and his thoughts on the past and future of Baltimore.Clarke Ahlers & Serge Antonin által
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How Having a "Rocket in my Pocket" Could Have Brought an Operation Undone
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Send us a text Strap in as I, Michael Bates—or at least that's the alias I go by—pull back the curtain on the life of an undercover cop, fresh off a heart-stopping operation. Imagine the high-octane world of crime-fighting, then the abrupt shift to the solemn halls of a Melbourne court for a trial that could hinge on every word I say. You'll get an…
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The Kenny Somers Story -- a Baltimore Tale of a Broken Criminal Justice System
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Send us a text Imagine the following story. "John Doe" steals a car -- or more accurately, John Doe steals the same car two times. The car owner, Kenny Somers, a professional automobile recycler, recovers the car the first time and attempts to recover the car a second time. But John Doe has other plans and tries to kill Kenny Somers. Somers fights …
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 2 with Keith Banks - Part 1
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Send us a text Stepping into the shoes of a police officer, one seldom considers the invisible scars that come with the badge and the gun. Our guest, Keith Banks, takes us behind the badge, revealing the raw and emotional cost of a life dedicated to law enforcement. As Keith unfolds his transition from a Queensland police officer to a beacon of hop…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 2 with Keith Banks - Part 2
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Send us a text Have you ever pondered the weight of secrets and the cost of deception on one's soul? Join us as former undercover cop Keith Banks takes us on a journey through the emotional labyrinth of covert police work. Keith's candid narration of a teenager's devastating descent into the world of heroin lays the foundation for a profound conver…
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A Clandestine Dance of Trust and Deception
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Send us a text Step into the perilous world of deep undercover operations with Michael Bates, a former cop who traded his badge for a covert alias to infiltrate a drug syndicate. Through his eyes, we're plunged into the heart of an intense drug buy with old classmates and the meticulous orchestration of a buy-bust that teeters on the brink of disas…
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The Tragic Death of NYPD Police Officer Jonathan Diller
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Send us a text Serge and Clarke comment in the murder of Ofc. Diller and update the listeners on renewed efforts on the Columbia Project. Worth a listen.Clarke Ahlers & Serge Antonin által
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The Inside Skinny on a Jury Trial in Manatee County, Florida
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Send us a text Join Serge and Clarke as they share Nathan Steelman's experience sitting as a juror in judgment of a woman charged with domestic violence in Florida. You have heard the expression "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6." (Clarke disagrees: he would rather be carried by six than judged by 12). But as you will learn, that expres…
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Miami Vice and a Suburban Shopping Centre Drug Deal
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Send us a text Imagine straddling the divide between law enforcement and the criminal underworld, where each decision could be your last. This time, as Michael Bates, I unmask the convoluted world of covert police work, recounting the harrowing choices and moral complexities that come with the badge and a hidden identity. From the silent battles wi…
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Stand Your Ground Doesn't Legalize Illegal Deadly Force
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Send us a text Serge and Clarke celebrate Easter. We have friends who have a blessed Ramadan. We have friends who we will wish Happy Passover in several weeks. We have re-uploaded an episode. We will be back next week with a brand new episode. In rural New York, a 65-year old man fired two shots from his porch killing a young woman in a car who was…
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Leveraging Loss for a Criminal Breakthrough
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Send us a text When the death of a child rips through the criminal underworld, it's not just a tragedy—it's a turning point. I'm Michael Bates, and I invite you to a raw and revealing journey into the life of an undercover cop, where I leveraged the anguish of a drug dealer's loss to sink my roots deeper into the network. This episode peels back th…
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If Only There Was a Way for Civilians to Experience "Shoot Don't Shoot."
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Send us a text Law Enforcement firearms training has historically emphasized reaction time and marksmanship. But the decision to shoot or don't shoot is the most fundamental choice the police officer faces in highly stressful situations. For the most part, civilians (who sit in judgment of the police) have not had large scale access to simulator tr…
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 1 - Tommy (Part 2)
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Send us a text Have you ever wondered what it's like to lead a double life, one where danger lurks at every handshake and trust is a currency as valuable as your next breath? Pull up a chair and join me, Michael Bates—alias only—as I sit down with Tommy, a seasoned comrade from the undercover trenches. We crack open the vault of our most harrowing …
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Seize the Day But Don't Necessarily Take the Bonus
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Send us a text At the request of a listener, Serge and Clarke offer their advice to young people without law enforcement experience who wish to apply to become police officers. People: this is solid advice from two men who have been there.Clarke Ahlers & Serge Antonin által
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Behind the Thin Blue Line, a Conversation - Episode 1 - Tommy (Part 1)
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Send us a text When you cross paths with Tommy, an undercover cop with stories that sound like they're straight out of a thriller, you better buckle up. With me, Michael Bates, your guide through the murky waters of covert policing, we invite you on a gripping journey into Tommy's life—from his military beginnings in Australia to the adrenaline-fue…
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Send us a text Welcome to 'Behind the Thin Blue Line’, a podcast that goes beyond the badge and into the lives of current and former police officers. Join me, your host Jason Somerville, an ex-police officer myself, as I uncover the real stories, experiences, and humanity that often go unnoticed. Through in-depth interviews and conversations, ' Beh…
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A Haircut, a Dealer, and the Stupidity of the Judiciary: Life Undercover
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Send us a text Slip into the shadows with me as you experience the life of Michael, a persona I crafted down to the last conspicuous strand. As an undercover cop, I've weathered the storm of creating a new existence, from securing a safe house amidst the suburban sprawl of an Inner City to navigating the murky waters of the criminal underworld. In …
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Seven Seconds and One Shot Into a Burglary Investigation and Melvin Jay is Dead.
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Send us a text February 1, 2024 -- Prince George's County, Maryland. Prince George's County Police Officer Braxton Shelton is dispatched to a burglary in progress at an apartment in Suitland. He arrives within a minute of the dispatch, finds the apartment door ajar, and enters by himself. Seven seconds later Shelton fires one shot killing Melvin Ja…
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Undercover Intricacies: From Mountains of Paperwork to Meticulous Preparation
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Send us a text As I, Michael Bates, slip into a world of aliases and covert operations, I'll recount the heart-pounding tales of my life as an undercover cop. Ever wondered about the stark realities of infiltrating criminal networks and the personal tribulations that follow? From hilarious drug raid bungles to nerve-racking successes against cunnin…
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What's Worse Than a Criminal With a Handgun? A Criminal with a Glock andGlock Switch.
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Send us a text What is worse than a plethora of undereducated, jobless, and unfocused young men with semi-automatic handguns shooting at each other in cities across America? Answer: A group of undereducated, jobless, and unfocused young men with machine-guns shooting at each other in cities across America. Welcome to the $50 "Glock switch." This sm…
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From Drug Busts to Wedding Bells
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Send us a text Picture a world where the only thing separating an ordinary life from the perilous depths of crime is a carefully crafted lie. I'm Michael Bates, and I've lived that lie, walking that razor-thin line as an undercover cop. Join me in this episode, where I pull back the curtain on the high-stakes dance with danger that comes with culti…
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The CSI Checklist Phone App is the Preeminent Tool for Criminal Investigators
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Send us a text There IS something new under the sun! Tom Mauriello, the mastermind of FORENSIQ, has organized decades of law enforcement expertise in a CSI phone app that is exceptional, affordable, and practical. Any criminal justice stakeholder can access an investigative blueprint for every type of investigation from arson to mass casualty event…
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How a Distrustful Dealer Got More Than He Bargained For
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Send us a text Ever wonder what it's like to live a double life? Step into my shoes, as I take you down the shadowy paths I walked as an undercover cop. This episode isn't just a recounting of daring drug busts; it’s a deep dive into the murky waters of ethics, trust, and the fragile human connections I navigated with criminals like Buzz, the chatt…
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