The East-West Psychology Podcast: Exploring global intersectionality of spirituality, psychology and philosophy. East-West Psychology is a department in the School of Consciousness and Transformation at the California Institute of Integral Studies. A multidisciplinary hub for engaged dialogue among Eastern, Western, and Earth-based psychologies, along with world psychospiritual traditions. Join our hosts, Jonathan Kay and Stephen Julich and their guests as they delve into the intersection of ...
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Cycling’s odd couple is back with an informative, entertaining, and occasionally feisty new podcast. Longtime friends and former teammates Bobby Julich and Jens Voigt shared the agonies and ecstasies of World Tour racing, gaining an unrivaled understanding and appreciation for the sport. Every week, they bring insightful commentary and unique chemistry to conversations with the riders, coaches, and diverse new personalities shaping today’s scene. Tune in for revealing interviews about life a ...
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Polyphonic Becoming: Creative Spirituality, the Arts, and the Essence of Freedom in Education
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In this podcast we meet CIIS student Lucian Dante Lazar to discuss his research at the intersections of spirituality and the arts, aiming towards the cultivation of a holistic science of creative becoming inspired by Rudolf Steiner’s Anthroposophy. We discuss esoteric approaches towards a pedagogy of creative education based upon experimental metho…
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Bodies of Culture: Introducing the Center for Black and Indigenous Praxis with Preston Vargas and Deanna Jimenez
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In this episode we meet Preston Vargas, the director of the Center for Black and Indigenous Praxis, and Deanna Jimenez, Assistant Professor in the Somatic Psychology Department and head of the Emerging Black Clinician Fellowship. We discuss strategies of navigating white academic space as a black scholar, the notion of bodies of culture, the import…
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African Cosmologies with Dr. Butterfly
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In this episode we speak with EWP adjunct professor Dr. Butterfly, along with students, Tayina Fenelus and Cameron Rice, who both took his class on African Cosmologies last semester. We speak of intergenerational transfer of knowledge in African traditions, and other important ideas in African cosmologies such as consubstantiation, ritual, story an…
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Art Practice as Research, Creative Pathways and New Directions between East-WestPsychology and the MFA at CIIS
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In this episode, we speak to Cindy Shearer, head of the MFA, and Debashish Banerji, chair of East-West Psychology about how their ideas on the vision of interdisciplinary education and creative scholarship lead them to create joint EWP and MFA degrees, as well as creative pathway dissertation track. We speak about transdisciplinary methods of arts-…
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A triple world time trial champion Michael Rogers was one of the masters against the clock. Now he serves as the UCI’s technical lead in his role as Head of road cycling and innovation. In this conversation we learn how Italian roots in Australia led to his rise in the sport, what exactly happened when he borrowed a bike and won on the Tour Down Un…
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His palmares is amongst the most unique in cycling's history. A Paris Roubaix winner, a champion at Paris-Nice, three Tour de Romandie titles and of course - in 1987, the Triple Crown which saw him join Eddy Merckx as the only men in the history of the sport to take home the Giro, Tour and World Championships in the same season. As we discovered, h…
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Elisa Longo Borghini is one of Italian sport's most successful and consistent performers. With four national road titles, and seven time trial titles to show for her efforts on the bike. She's also won the Tour of Flanders, Paris Roubaix and Strade Bianchi and earned two podium spots at the Giro Donne. This year Elisa will be one of the team leader…
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Order and Disorder in South Asia with Christopher Chapple and Debashish Banerji
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This episode is dedicated to introducing the South Asian Studies Association (SASA) and their annual academic conference being co-hosted by the Asian Contemplative and Transcultural Studies Concentration (ACTS) being held at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) on March 1st-3rd, 2024. We are joined by Chris Chapple, the president of …
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In the latest installment of Bobby and Jens, seasoned professional cyclist Larry Warbasse takes center stage, joining your favorite hosts, Bobby Julich and Jens Voigt, for an in-depth exploration of his recent training camp adventures in Spain. 🚴♂️ Hear Larry's insights into the unique dynamics of January training camps as he gives you a behind-th…
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African cycling is represented by three riders in the male World Tour peloton - Ryan Gibbons is a former continental champion and South African national champion in both the time trial and road race disciplines. He speaks to us ahead of his 2024 season, fresh from a training camp with his new team Lidl-Trek ahead of his national championships.... i…
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Last year Luke Lamperti won stages at the Baby Giro, the Tour of Japan and the US Criterium Nationals - grabbing the attention of Soudal Quickstep who gave the 21 year old his first World Tour ride in 2024. He shares his thoughts on life in Europe, fitting in with the likes of Remco Evenepoel and Julian Alaphilippe and dealing with friends on rival…
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Cultivating Contemplative Civilization and a New Civilization of Love and Ahimsa (Non-Violence)
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This episode we speak with Dr. Ananta Giri Kumar, a professor at the Madras Institute of Development Studies, who was recently a guest speaker at the conference hosted at CIIS called Sustainability and Contemplative Civilization: The Integral Vision of Sri Aurobindo. We will be joined by Hemalatha Swaminathan, an EWP Phd student, to discuss with An…
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Superteams are a mainstay in the World Tour peloton from UAE and Jumbo in the men's pack, to the inexorable rise of Canyon-SRAM in the women's. One team is aiming to join their number with a radical philosophy - "don't be a prick" and back the homegrown talent from your nation. Uno X earned their first Tour de France wildcard spot in 2023, entering…
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Andreas Klier was a proven classics maven as a pro, one of the sharpest minds in the peloton, his switch to the directors car was logical and natural. More surprising however is Andreas' proficiency in art. A talent discovered later in life, his work is now featured in a top gallery on his new home of Majorca. In this conversation Andreas shares hi…
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With the 2023 season in the rearview mirror Bobby and Jens slap on their best suits and dish out awards for the most deserving riders in the peloton. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/people…
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Valtteri Bottas is a former GP3 Champion, a winner of 10 Formula One races and one of the most recognisable members of the Grand Prix paddock. He’s also a passionate cycling fan, a co-founder of FNLD GRVL and RADL GRVL, a top 20 finisher at steamboat gravel’s blue course and a partner of Canyon SRAM’s Tiffany Cromwell. Here he reveals where he sees…
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Ben Healy burst on to the World Tour scene in 2023, most notably with his stage win at the Giro d'Italia. But Ben's long range attacks, punchy climbing style and aggressive racing strategy made him a fan favourite throughout the year. In this conversation Ben reflects on his season, his new home and his plans for 2024. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked G…
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Keegan Swenson is a dominant multidiscipline rider. A two time national mountain bike champion, a winner at Unbound gravel, Sea Otter, SBT and Leadville and even a member of the US National team that took on the road world championships in Wollongong in 2022. Bobby and Jens find out what makes the humble, self-supported rider tick in this typically…
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Live from the El Tour de Tucson
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Bobby and Jens sit down with Amy Charity and TJ Juskiewicz to discuss the inexorable growth of the El Tour de Tuscon - the rise and rise of gravel in the USA - plus how they're bringing gravel to a European audience... and how we can bring back the glory days back to the domestic road racing scene. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for…
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Annemiek Van Vleuten II
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Annemiek van Vleuten was already a legend of the sport when she joined Bobby and Jens back in 2021 - since that moment Annemiek has added a World Championship, two Olympic medals, two Giro d'Italia, two Vuelta a Espana, the inaugural Tour de France Femmes and Liege-Bastogne-Liege. Despite all that success Annemiek called time on her career at the e…
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Bobby and Jens catch up with Cherie Pridham. Cherie made history when she became the first female Directeur Sportif in the Men's World Tour when she joined Israel Start Up Nation in 2021, after a season there, and two more with Lotto Dstny, Cherie is moving to the women's world tour with UAE ADQ. The role brings new responsibilities, as Cherie has …
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Bentonville, Arkansas has become a must visit location for fans of MTB and gravel in recent years with the Lifetime Grand Prix and Big Sugar taking place inside the city's borders... but how has it earned this reputation? Fresh from giving Bobby a taste of the famous trails, one of Bentonville's key players, Andy Chasteen shares his thoughts and re…
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Michael Schär has recently called it quits on a professional career that earned him the fear and adoration of his colleagues. He joined Bobby and Jens after cancelling a family holiday... and beginning his path to a role at Lidl-Trek. This giant of the peloton reveals the problems his huge frame posed for teams and bike manufacturers, the inside tr…
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Megan Fisher had ambitions to be a professional tennis player before a catastrophic accident changed her sporting trajectory. Meg shares her story into the world of paracycling, her qualification as a doctor and her contrasting emotions of representing the USA at the Paralympics in 2012 and 2016. Four Paralympic medals later, she's now a pioneer fo…
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Mattias Skjelmose has taken big strides forward every year as a professional. His first season at Trek saw him snatching the young rider's jersey at the Tour of Norway, in 2022 he won GC at the Tour of Luxembourg. In 2023, he won the Tour de Suisse, the Danish national road race title and the Maryland Cycling Classic. At 23 years old, he sits in th…
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As a world tour mechanic Filip Tišma has worked alongside some of the biggest names in the cycling. He's the man who gave his countryman Matej Mohorič the idea to use the dropper post in Milan-San Remo and has helped the likes of Bradley Wiggins, Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas to grand tour glory. Bobby and Jens find out exactly what a top level m…
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Matthew White has been a Director Sportif for Team Jayco–AlUla since they entered the World Tour as Orica Green-Edge back in 2017. But to Bobby and Jens, he’s still their old mate Whitey. We hear about his route into the professional peloton, from the tiny Australian team he shared with Jens to the mighty Discovery - hear about his Tour de France h…
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A hardman of the classics as a rider - Steven de Jongh is regarded as now regarded as one of the wisest heads in the car. He shares with Bobby and Jens how the team rapidly rebranded following the addition of new sponsor Lidl, reveals what he'd do if he found himself in the same situation that Jumbo-Visma did at the Vuelta and tells us the incredib…
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Matej Mohorič has built his reputation on his grit, determination and pioneering descents. He was pedaling in the super tuck on his way to winning the U23 World Championship in 2013... and later used a new innovation - the dropper post - to his first monument win, securing the 2022 Milan San-Remo title. His interview in the aftermath of his third T…
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With four World Time Trial titles to his name Tony Martin sits atop the list of the sport's all time greats in the discipline - alongside his old adversary Fabian Cancellara. In this conversation with Bobby and Jens, Tony reveals the truth about how tough the pursuit for that level of greatness was. From sandpaper coated saddles, to bending his sho…
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The Emergence of Integral Consciousness and Sustainability and Contemplative Civilization
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This is a special podcast to introduce two upcoming sister conferences at California Institute of Integral Studies this September, to celebrate 150 Years of Sri Aurobindo, the pioneer of Integral Consciousness. The first conference is organized by the East-West Psychology Department (EWP) and the Asian Contemplative and Transcultural Studies concen…
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Fresh from the Steamboat Gravel race Tiffany Cromwell joins Bobby and Jens to discuss how she manages a gravel calendar alongside her road campaign. A former winner of Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and two stages of the Giro Donne, Tiffany has become one of the biggest names in the gravel pack. In this conversation she guides cat 6 gravel rider Bobby throu…
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The Philosophy of Music and the Attunement of the Soul
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In this episode we speak with Philosophy, Cosmology and Consciousness core faculty, Jack Bagby about his engagement with the philosophy of music, from Socrates, to Schopenhauer, and Bergson. We discuss Jack’s recent PCC class called The Philosophy of Music and the Attunement of the Soul and dive into the complex ideas of these thinkers regarding th…
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Professional cycling is a battlefield, it can be hard to stand out, harder still to survive. At the continental level it can be even tougher. Sponsorship issues and losing your best riders to the World Tour means bosses need to think outside the box in order to survive. Richard Pascoe certainly is a blue sky thinker - for the last five years Saint …
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Rob Hatch has been the voice of some of modern cycling's most incredible moments - Pogacar beating Roglic in the 2020 Tour de France finale; to the older Slovene's revenge in this year's Giro his words have become as memorable as the pictures that he married them to. But as Bobby and Jens learn, the role is far from straightforward. This eye openin…
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Last year Dan Martin released his autobiography 'Chased by Pandas' which shared his unfiltered view of his career. While many autobiographies focus on their career highlights - Dan made the decision to focus on his fears as a cyclist - from the juniors to retirement. He joined us to reflect on his career - looking back on his junior career, racing …
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Bobby and Jens spoke to Kevin Vermaerke just days after the "hardest ever world championship road race" in Glasgow to discuss why this wunderkind is getting American cycling fans excited. We discover how he killed the time during the protest on course, his thoughts of leading the race and what it's like to tackle a challenging course that was raced…
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Filippo Ganna is utterly unique in the men’s peloton. At the time of recording Filippo was just a week short of his 27th birthday yet he has a palmares that is remarkable in its breadth and scale - he’s won six stages at the Giro d’Italia - including five straight time trial stages… and a mountainous breakaway. He’s the reigning hour record holder,…
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Matthew Riccitello might only be in his first year in cycling's World Tour, but he's already made a big impact. Few neo pros ride a Grand Tour in the first year… fewer still tackle the very first on the calendar…but that's exactly what Matthew Riccitello did in 2023. In this conversation he shares his personal journey to the sport of cycling - from…
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There have been few better seasons in professional cycling than Demi Vollering’s 2023. She’s already won Strade Bianchi, Amstel Gold, Liège–Bastogne–Liège and the Vuelta a Burgos which all means she wears the Women's World Tour leader’s jersey at her biggest objective of the season - The Tour de France Femmes. In this conversation with Bobby and Je…
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Stuart O'Grady is a man comfortable in many environments. As a rider he won four Olympic medals - including gold in the Madison in 2004, on the road he tamed the cobbles of Paris Roubaix and won the first of his two Tour de France stages by outfoxing his breakaway companions on a mountainous stage. Now 'Stuey' is tasked with kicking off the World T…
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Edvald Boasson Hagen has been one of the strongest riders in the peloton since he joined the world tour in 2008 with High Road. His surprise win at Gent-Wevelgem in 2009, stage win at the Giro, and powerful roleur style made him a key signing for the newly formed Team Sky in 2010. He won the team's first ever Tour de France stage, picking up two in…
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Caleb Ewan has long been regarded as one of the most explosive sprinters in the peloton. He's earned picked up victories at some of the world's most prestigious races... including the two races regarded as the unofficial sprinters world championships on the Champs Elysees and Scheldeprijs. In this conversation he reveals to Bobby and Jens everythin…
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Rider Safety with Adam Hansen
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This episode of Bobby and Jens is dedicated to Gino Mäder, his family, friends and those that loved him. Full disclosure Adam Hansen was booked to talk about rider safety before the Tour de Suisse started, the day we sat down to record - team Bobby and Jens and Adam had just received news that Gino hadn't made it - and were still processing the hor…
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Bobby and Jens are joined by Canadian hotshot Derek Gee. He spoke to Bobby and Jens days after the conclusion of his epic first grand tour - before he was rewarded with a well deserved contract extension by his team. After Derek finished 2nd on four Giro stages, 2nd in the Mountain classification, 2nd in the points he was the deserved winning of th…
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Danish rider Jakob Fuglsang joins us from Andorra to share his plans for the 2023 season. He reveals why an early season illness reshaped his goals for the year. We also dig through the archives and discover how Jakob moved from being one of the best mountain bikers on the planet to one of the elite men on the road. Jakob gives his thoughts on his …
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Contemplative Psychotherapy: Intersections of Science, Spirituality and Buddhism
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In this episode we meet Joseph Loizzo, MD, PhD, who is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and Columbia-trained Buddhist scholar with over forty years’ experience studying the beneficial effects of contemplative practices on healing, learning and development. Joe shares his story of founding the Nalanda Institute, in NYC, as an intersection between cont…
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She competed in ice hockey at collegiate level before transitioning into triathlon after narrowly missing out on the US Olympic team... and the changes have barely stopped since. Now an accomplished multisport star, she manages a complicated season of ultra long trail running alongside her gravel pursuits... She spoke to Bobby and Jens ahead of her…
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Fresh from pushing Bobby to his limits at the 2023 ride, Xisco Lliteras explains the huge logistical effort involved in creating a challenging ride worthy of ex pros that doesn't alienate more novice riders. He reveals where his own love affair with the sport began and how the race grew to be one of the best loved on the amateur calendar. Plus... w…
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Bernie Eisel now mixes his time between his role as an assistant DS for Bora Hansgrohe and a commentator for GCN... but before all of that he was a well respected rider in the peloton. His eighteen year career is probably best remembered for his partnership with Mark Cavendish and he shares his own views of that relationship, plus Bernie reveals th…
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