Interviews with theologians, artists, scholars and activists. Searching for a faith that faces up responsibly to our world. Hosted by Liam Miller.
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When does 20 seconds feel like foooooreeeeevvvveerrrrrr? When you're washing your hands for the umptyumpth time today, and is it really all that important to wash them AGAIN??? Yes. Yes, it is. To make it easier, a group of writers and podcasters have put together these 20-second stories to get you through the Lather, Rinse, and Repeat stages. So, crank up a story, lather up, and be well.
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Ep128. Ganbaru: a story of wrestling and humanity, Jonathan Foye
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I sat down with a good friend, Jonathan Foye, to discuss his book Ganbaru: How All Japan Pro Wrestling Survived the Year 2000 Roster Split. We discuss the all-too-human drama of this story of grief, conflict, separation, and a will to persevere, playing out in and out of the ring. In the year 2000, Mitsuharu Misawa left All Japan Pro Wrestling. He …
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Ep127. Towards a Wahine Maori Theology of Liberation, Tamsyn Kereopa
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In the latest panel on BLM in the church in Australia and Oceania, Tamsyn Kereopa joins Katalina Tahaafe-Williams, Tau’alofa Anga’aelangi, and myself in a discussion on Indigenous theology, the struggle for racial justice in Aotearoa/New Zealand, the shifting forms of colonisation, and her work towards a Wahine Maori Theology of Liberation. Rev Tam…
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Ep126. Theatre, Theology, and Bodily Hope, Shannon Craigo-Snell
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I sat down with Shannon Craigo-Snell to discuss turning to theatre to ask: Why Church? We discuss what led her to this conversation, how performance as event/interaction/doubleness illuminates the nature of the church, reading Delores Williams with Bertolt Brecht and much more. Buy The Empty Church Shannon Craigo-Snell is a systematic and construct…
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Ep125. Considering the Human, Peter Kline
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I sat down with Peter Kline to talk about the fun and flexibility of teaching theological anthropology, talking sex and gender in the classroom, differences in theological academies and institutions he encountered moving from the US to Australia, and what drew him to negative/apophatic theology. Peter Kline is the academic dean and lecturer in syst…
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Ep124. Reading Ruth in the Pacific, Jione Havea
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I sat down with Jione Havea to discuss his new book, Losing Ground. We discuss the book of Ruth, reading it amidst climate catastrophe, how Jione built this book through talanoa and bible studies with Pasifika people across Australia, Aotearoa, and the Pacific, opening up academic biblical studies, and how this book "seeks to make any notions of wh…
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Ep123. Invisible: Theology and the Experience of Asian American Women, Grace Ji-Sun Kim
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Grace Ji-Sun Kim returns to the podcast to talk about the racism and sexism encountered presently and historically by Asian American women, before exploring what it might look like to live into a Theology of Visibility. Buy the Book Grace Ji-Sun Kim was born in Korea, was educated in Canada, and now teaches in the United States. She is the author o…
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Ep122. Why Read a Poem? SkylerJay Keiter-Massefski
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Skyler Jay Keiter-Massefski returns to the pod to answer the question: why read a poem. We discuss our mixed histories with poetry, how they approach the craft, and poetry's embodiedness and relation to breath. We also discuss the "how" of reading poetry and then Skyler finishes the chat by talking about the connection for them, between going out d…
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Ep121. The Fragility of Language and the Encounter with God, Florian Klug
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I sat down with German theologian, Florian Klug, to talk about the contingency and legitimacy of doctrine. We discuss the importance of God's initiative preceding human speech, that language is not something we possess but are born into and how this gives us a horizon of preconditioned knowledge that is expanded and shattered by God's intrusion. We…
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Ep120. Feminist Theology and Contemporary Dieting Culture, Hannah Bacon
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I sat down with Hannah Bacon to talk about sin, salvation, and women's weight loss narratives. I ask Hannah what drew her to this project and why there are seemingly so few theological works concerning weight/weight loss. We also discuss her focus on the theological doctrinal loci of sin and salvation and how are these shaping/resurfacing contempor…
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Ep119. Filled with the Spirit, Ellen Lewin
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I sat down with anthropologist Ellen Lewin to discuss her recent work, Filled with the Spirit: Sexuality, Gender, and Radical Inclusivity in a Black Pentecostal Church Coalition. The book (and our interview) focuses on Lewin’s time participating in and researching the Fellowship of Affirming Ministries. Through our discussion Lewin shares about the…
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Ep118. Hey Jude, Ali Robinson
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I spoke to Ali Robinson about teaching the New Testament, that little book of Jude, harsh language, conflict, and struggling to stick to a topic of research. Dr Ali Robinson hold a PhD from Macquarie University, a BTh with Honours from Charles Sturt University. She has a strong interest in the General Epistles, Greco-Roman Rhetoric, Invective, Seco…
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Ep117. Indigenous Theologies, Anne Pattel-Gray
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This is a portion of the most recent Black Lives Matter and the Church in Australia panel discussion where Dr Anne Pattel-Gray joined the group to talk about Indigenous Theologies. She offers insight into the cost of developing a theology based in sovereignty and anti-colonialism, the work that remains, and what she's working on now. The monthly pa…
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Ep116. All Who Are Weary, Emmy Kegler
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I sat down with Emmy Kegler to discuss easing the burden on the walk with mental illness. We discuss how this book emerged out fo a deep need for compassionate Christian talk about mental illness, something that critiqued harmful Christian approaches but still had something to offer. I ask about her chapter on sin, which helps us rethink where the …
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Ep115. The Church as Salt, Sally Douglas
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I spoke with Sally Douglas about becoming the community Jesus speaks about. We discuss the versatility and surprise of the image of salt when thinking about the church, her engagement with early church writings, salty wombs, and the importance of being a place where people can cry in times such as these. Buy the Book Sally Douglas is a Uniting Chur…
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Ep114. The Straight Mind in Corinth, Gillian Townsley
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I spoke with Gillian Townsley about queer reading across 1 Corinthians 11:2-16. We talk about attending to the ideology of reception and how reading across helps us move beyond the 'tired old debates'. I ask about how the work of Monique Wittig shapes her project (specifically about bringing men/masculinity back into focus). We also discuss her ana…
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Ep113. a very Karl Barth episode, Christiane Tietz
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I sat down with Christiane Tietz to discuss the challenges and rewards of writing a biography of Karl Barth, and what theology gains from biography. We discuss Barth's time as a pastor in Safenwil and his siding with factory workers in a local labour dispute, and I ask how this event influenced (or was shaped by) his understanding of the kingdom of…
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Ep112. a very Kierkegaard episode, Aaron Simmons
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I sat down with president of the Søren Kierkegaard Society (USA), Aaron Simmons to talk all about the existential Dane. We discuss who Kierkegaard was, what drew Aaron to his work (including the surprising points of resonance between Søren and pentecostalism). I also ask about Kierkegaard's work on Abraham and faith, how one can be led through exis…
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Ep111. Theologising with the Sacred ‘Prostitutes‘ of South India, Eve Rebecca Parker
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I sat down with Eve Rebecca Parker to discuss an Indecent Dalit Theology. We talk about her book where she theologises with the Dalit women who from childhood have been dedicated to village goddesses and used as ‘sacred’ sex workers. We talk about how she came to this project, and what theology and the reading of Scripture gains through engagement …
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Ep110. Decolonisation and the Preamble to the UCA Constitution, Garry Deverell and Chris Budden
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Rev Dr Garry Deverell and Rev Dr Chris Budden join Rev. Tau’alofa Anga’aelangi, Rev Dr Katalina Tahaafe-Williams, and myself to discuss the preamble to the Uniting Church in Australia's constitution. Garry opens by discussing his critique of the document from an Indigenous perspective as one which rein-scribes colonial narratives, Chris then offers…
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Ep109. Teaching Global Theology, Sathianathan Clarke
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I sat down with Sathi Clarke to discuss his calling as a theologian, how his theological development was shaped by living with communities of untouchables in India, why a theologian needs to have concrete commitments to communities in their struggles for justice, how to teach global/world Christianity, responding to religious fundamentalism, and be…
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Ep107. Just Revolution, Anna Floerke Scheid
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I sat down with Anna Scheid to discuss her Christian ethic of political resistance and social transformation. We discuss her critique and inversion of Just War Theory to consider how it might be shaped to consider resistance and revolutions from below. Buy the Book Anna Floerke Scheid is Associate Professor of theology at Duquesne University. Dr. S…
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Ep106. Religion and the History of the CIA, Michael Graziano
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I sat down with Michael Graziano to talk about his book Errand into the Wilderness of Mirrors which investigates the dangers and delusions that ensued from the religious world-views of the early moulders of the CIA. We discuss how the religious studies of the time (both in the academy and in popular culture) shaped the CIA's view of and approach to…
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Ep105. The Politics of Punishment in Evangelical America, Aaron Griffith
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I interviewed Aaron Griffith about his book God's Law and Order, which argues that we cannot understand the US criminal justice system without accounting for evangelicalism's impact on its historical development. We discuss why crime and punishment 'mattered' for white evangelicals in the post-war period, how they made an expansive mass incarcerati…
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Ep104 (Live). Indigenous Theology and Decolonising Theological Edu, Naomi Wolfe
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Naomi Wolfe sat down with Rev. Tau’alofa Anga’aelangi, Rev Dr Katalina Tahaafe-Williams, Emma Jackson, and myself to talk about Indigenous theology and spirituality, theological education, decolonising liturgy and language for God, and much more. This episode is a re-post of most recent of the monthly Black Lives Matter and the Church in Australia …
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Ep103. Postcolonialism and the Book of Revelation, U-Wen Low
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I sat down with U-Wen Low to talk about the Book of Revelation as drama, resistance literature, and message of hope. We also discuss postcolonialism in biblical studies, and how he found himself in the middle of all this fascinating (if not highly controversial) research. Dr U-Wen Low is Senior Lecturer In Biblical Studies and Program Director - Ma…
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Ep102. Texts After Terror, Rhiannon Graybill
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I sat down with Rhiannon Graybill to talk about how we tell biblical rape stories and how we might tell rape stories differently (content warnings for discussions of rape and sexual violence). We discuss the twofold sense of "after": 1) after Phyllis Trible and related approaches of feminist biblical interpretation, and 2) after the event of terror…
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Ep101. Jesus and the Forces of Death, Matthew Thiessen
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I sat down with Matthew Thiessen to discuss the Gospels’ portrayal of ritual impurity within First-Century Judaism. We discuss how purity concerns map out the reality of the gospel writer's worlds, and clarify the differences between categories of holy, profane, pure, impure. Matthew then demonstrates Jesus' acceptance of the reality of these categ…
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Ep100. A Bible Bracket!
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I'm joined by a wonderful group of friends to ring in episode 100 with a 64 team single-elimination tournament pitting books of the Bible against each other in one-on-one competition until just one remains and we declare the best book in the canon. It was a lot of fun to record and generated a lot of fascinating and passionate conversation about a …
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Ep99. The State of the Union, President Rev Sharon Hollis
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I sat down with newly inducted President of the Uniting Church in Australia, Rev Sharon Hollis. We discuss her call into a role such as this, what it means for the UCA that we're entering an era when those taking roles like President, Moderator, etc. have no memory of union or experience with the uniting churches. We also discuss the issues and cha…
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Ep98. The Shape of Sex, Leah DeVun
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I sat down with Leah DeVun to discuss her book, The Shape of Sex: Nonbinary Gender from Genesis to the Renaissance. We talk about how widespread thinking and writing about non-binary individuals was during the first centuries of the CE and again in the C12th-14th, and the way non-binary bodies actually shaped the way a host of categories and bounda…
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Ep97. The Miracle of Religion in Modern Manhattan, Jon Butler
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I sat down with historian Jon Butler to discuss his book God in Gotham which explores religion in Manhattan from the last C19th to midC20th. We discuss how - contrary to much opinion (then and now) - modernity, urban density, and plurality did not prove a stranglehold on religion in this most city of cities but proved fertile ground for its flouris…
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Ep96. Black Christology and the Quest for Authenticity, John H. McClendon III
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I sat down with Prof John H. McClendon to discuss his philosophical appraisal of Black Theology/Christology and materialist critique of its claim of authenticity. We discuss how he became interested in the topic through study of Howard Thurman, the relationship between Black Theology and African American theology that preceded it, and the shift fro…
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Ep95. Disability, Diversity, and the Body of Christ, Brian Brock
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I sat down with Brian Brock to talk about his new book, Disability: Living into the Diversity of Christ's Body (Baker, 2021). We discuss common misconceptions and assumptions that lead to unwelcome and awkwardness in churches (beginning with the common falsity that there are "no disabled people in our church"). Brian offers examples of how in notic…
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Ep94. Queering Wesley, Keegan Osinski
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I spoke with Keegan Osinski about her new book: Queering Wesley, Queering the Church. We discuss what drew her to this project, her experience within the Wesleyan tradition, and how she found fertile ground for queer readings in Wesley's sermons. We then go deep on her readings of holiness, being born again, pride and humility, and pleasure. Buy th…
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Ep93. Transgressive Devotion, Natalie Wigg-Stevenson
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I sat down with Natalie Wigg-Stevenson to talk about theology as performance art. We discuss her new work which weaves together discussions in church basements, notorious works of performance art, and a broad range of theological thinkers to respond to a moment where she felt forgotten by God. Along the way we talk about what it might mean to think…
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Ep92 (LIVE). Indigenous Sovereignty, Multiculturalism, and the Church, with Anne Pattel-Gray
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Dr Anne Pattel-Gray, author of the Great White Flood, joins Rev. Tau’alofa Anga’aelangi, Rev Dr Katalina Tahaafe-Williams, and myself in a discussion on Black Lives Matter, the church's call to confront racist injustice, the relationship between Indigenous sovereignty and multiculturalism, where the UCA has become too timid, the ongoing lack of Ind…
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Ep91. Hope in Disarray, Grace Ji-Sun Kim
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I sat down with Grace Ji-Sun Kim to talk about hope. We talk about writing for the public, differentiating hope from optimism, speaking of hope amidst the pain and violence of sexism, racism, and ecological destruction, and what it means to live inside and even become our hope. We also talk about her new podcast Madang and what it's like to be on t…
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Ep90. Redfern: Aboriginal Activism in the 1970s, Johanna Perheentupa
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I sat down with Johanna Perheentupa to discuss her new book on Aboriginal activism and the push for self-determination in Redfern in the 1970s. We discuss the conditions and social changes that made Redfern ripe for such radical change and the development of landmark organisations such as the Aboriginal Legal Service, the National Black Theatre, Ab…
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Ep89. What Public Theology Could Be, Janice McRandal
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I sat down with Janice McRandal, public, feminist theologian, to talk about theology (public and otherwise) as it is in Australia and how it could be. We discuss how she came to a life of an academic and public theology, what The Cooperative is about and hopes to disrupt and achieve, theological education in Australia and what she thinks it needs f…
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Ep88. Queer and Indecent: a conversation about Marcella Althaus-Reid, Thia Cooper
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"In sum, Althaus-Reid wanted to help us free ourselves from dominating constructs that keep us from knowing God... the goal is not to formulate one theology but to celebrate the diverse ways of knowing God." I sat down with Thia Cooper to talk about her new introduction to the work of Marcella Althaus-Reid. We talk about the theological marketplace…
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Ep87. Reading the Magnificat in Australia, Anne Elvey
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I spoke with Anne Elvey about her new book, Reading the Magnificat in Australia. We discuss her approach to the project as a poet and biblical scholar who has creatively engaged the Magnificat for many years, and how this combination connects to a hermeneutics of creative imagination and need for creative writing to 'turn the breath' toward empathy…
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Ep86. Appalling Bodies, Joseph A. Marchal
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"Paul is probably the least interesting thing about Paul’s letters." I sat down with Joseph Marchal to talk the way his book reaches past questions of what Paul 'thought' (or how his texts can be read in 'inclusive' ways) toward far more fascinating queer figures before and after his letters: "androgynes, eunuchs, slaves, and barbarians—each depict…
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Ep85. A Passion for Preaching, Anna Carter Florence
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I sat down with Anna Carter Florence to talk about her passion for preaching. We discuss lessons she's learnt from teaching preaching for two decades, overlap between acting and preaching, how to make Scripture more dynamic and accessible, and her book Rehearsing Scripture: Discovering God's Word in Community. Anna Carter Florence will be a keynote…
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Ep84. Luke/Acts and the End of History, Kylie Crabbe
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How does Luke's understanding of the end of history reshape experience in the present? I sat down with Kylie Crabbe to talk Luke/Acts, eschatology, history, and how ancient writers make sense of negative experience. I also ask Kylie to argue the case for Luke as the best gospel and attempt to disprove the theory that Acts is actually kind of boring…
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Ep83. How to Have an Enemy, Melissa Florer-Bixler
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“No good comes from the denial of enmity.” I spoke with Melissa Florer-Bixler about her new book, How To Have an Enemy. The question, she emphasises, is not whether to have enemies, but how to have the right enemy. We also talk about the myth of the Christmas Day truce, problems of 'unity', and why Melissa's job as a pastor isn't "to create a polit…
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Ep82. A Christian Engagement with Shari‘a, Joshua Ralston
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I sat down with Joshua Ralston to talk about his book Law and the Rule of God: a Christian Engagement with Shari’a (Cambridge, 2020). We discuss what lead him to this work, why discussions of law in Islam are missing in political theology (and why they matter), the problems of Protestant antinomianism, comparative theology and how recognising diffe…
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Ep81. Dying to be Normal, Brett Krutzsch
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I sat down with Brett Krutzsch to talk about his book Dying to Be Normal: Gay Martyrs and the Transformation of American Sexual Politics. The book highlights how, through the process of commemoration, secular gay activists deployed Protestant Christian ideals to present gays as similar to upstanding heterosexuals and, therefore, as deserving of equ…
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Ep80. The Veiled God, Ruth Jackson Ravenscroft
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I sat down with Ruth Jackson Ravenscroft to talk theology, finitude, and Schleiermacher. I ask about her journey into theology, the importance of reading Schleiermacher with his biography close at hand, and what she's learnt with sharing Schleiermacher beyond the halls of theology, before engaging with her work on finitude (in particular the freedo…
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Ep79. A Bridge Between, Katharine Massam
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I sat down with Katharine Massam to talk about Spanish Benedictine Missionary Women in New Norcia in Western Australia. We discuss the way this strange, surprising, complex, and sad story helps chart a path for thinking about religious and colonial history in these lands now called Australia. We talk about the way this small mission town both refle…
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Ep78. The Messianic Theology of the New Testament, Joshua W. Jipp.
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I sat down with Josh Jipp to talk about the messianic identity of Jesus as the presupposition for and primary content of New Testament theology. We discuss balancing unity and plurality within the New Testament, the benefits and risks of centring the messianic identity in light of the history of Christian supersessionism, the kind of kingdom this m…
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