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The Southwest’s Wildest Outdoor Art: From Lightning Fields to Sun Tunnels 30:55

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A secret field that summons lightning. A massive spiral that disappears into a salt lake. A celestial observatory carved into a volcano. Meet the wild—and sometimes explosive—world of land art, where artists craft masterpieces with dynamite and bulldozers. In our Season 2 premiere, guest Dylan Thuras, cofounder of Atlas Obscura, takes us off road and into the minds of the artists who literally reshaped parts of the Southwest. These works aren’t meant to be easy to reach—or to explain—but they just might change how you see the world. Land art you’ll visit in this episode: - Double Negative and City by Michael Heizer (Garden Valley, Nevada) - Spiral Jetty by Robert Smithson (Great Salt Lake, Utah) - Sun Tunnels by Nancy Holt (Great Basin Desert, Utah) - Lightning Field by Walter De Maria (Catron County, New Mexico) - Roden Crater by James Turrell (Painted Desert, Arizona) Via Podcast is a production of AAA Mountain West Group.…

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Theology with Imagination (with Brian Zahnd) | Ep. 46 1:12:55

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What happens when one of the most provocative theological voices of our time sits down with a glass of wine and reimagines everything? In this episode, Jeremy talks with Brian Zahnd about peacemaking, the prophetic role of the church, why evangelicalism may not recover, and what happens when we start to believe Jesus actually meant what he said. It’s bold, it’s challenging, and it’s full of grace. Plus, there are a few surprises, like pipe collecting and Scotch favorites. Whether you're curious, skeptical, or just thirsty for better conversations about faith, this one’s for you. Click here to watch the episode on video. ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://bit.ly/rebuilding-faith Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in…

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Curiosity and Poor Eyesight | Ep. 45 30:43

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What if the only thing separating you from deeper faith… is your doubt? In this episode, we uncork the connection between spiritual curiosity and our inability to see clearly — and why that’s not a flaw, but a feature of real theology. Jesus doesn’t demand certainty. He invites wonder. Click here to watch the episode on video. -------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://bit.ly/rebuilding-faith Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in…

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Queer and Christian (with Brandan Robertson) | Ep. 44 57:29

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This week, we’re uncorking a bold conversation that challenges assumptions, celebrates authenticity, and dives into the complexity of faith and identity. What does it mean to be queer and Christian? You’ll hear personal journeys, tough questions, unexpected grace, and the beauty of holding space for queerness in spirituality. Whether you're in the pews or at Pride, this one’s for you. Click here to watch the episode on video. ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://bit.ly/rebuilding-faith Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in ----------------- Wines in this episode: 2020 Paso Ranches Zinfandel Sonoma-Cutrer Chardonnay Sonoma Coast Links: Official site: www.brandanrobertson.com Pre-order Queer and Christian : www.queerchristian.org Podcast: The Queer & Christian Podcast – streaming on all major platforms…

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#43: What's the Deal with Hell? 45:30

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Are there different ways to understand hell in Christianity? In this thought-provoking episode, Jeremy tackles one of the most challenging theological concepts that many struggle with. If you've ever questioned traditional teachings about eternal punishment or wondered if there are other interpretations supported by scripture, this episode offers a refreshing perspective that might completely transform your understanding of Christianity. Click here to watch the episode on video. Key Points: Three Historical Christian Views of Hell : Infernalism/Eternal Conscious Torment : The traditional view where non-believers suffer eternally in hell. Annihilationism : Those who reject God cease to exist after death (also called "soul sleep"). Christian Universalism : Jesus will ultimately save everyone, though some may go through a refining process after death. Principles for Considering Hell : Good theology should look like Jesus Our view should reflect all New Testament writers Christians should have humility about who is "in" or "out" Your view of hell is not an essential part of Christianity Fear of hell is a cheap motivator to follow Jesus Biblical Foundation : The episode references 1 John 4:16 (perfect love casts out fear) and Romans 2:4 (God's kindness leads to repentance) to establish that God motivates through love, not fear. Wine Featured: 2019 Sequoia Grove Cabernet Sauvignon (Napa Valley) with distinctive herbaceous notes (bell pepper, jalapeño) followed by secondary cherry and red fruit flavors. Recommended Reading: "Her Gates Will Never Be Shut" by Brad Jersak "That All Shall Be Saved" by David Bentley Hart -------------- Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in Cabernet and Pray is an authentic, thoughtfully curated, human-hosted podcast that is free, but not cheap. Please consider supporting the content Jeremy creates by joining the Rebuilding Faith patron community and get access to exclusive content and experiences. Find out more here: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups…

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#42: The Spirituality of Wine (with Gisela Kreglinger) 1:07:01

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What if drinking wine was more than just a pleasure—it was a spiritual practice? In this episode, we sit down with theologian and wine expert Gisela Kreglinger to explore the deep connections between wine, faith, and community. Growing up in a German winery, Gisela brings a unique perspective on how wine shapes our conversations, our celebrations, and even our theology. From the role of wine in biblical times to the way it fosters deeper human connection today, this episode will challenge the way you think about your next glass. Click here to watch the episode on video. Key Points: Meet Gisela Kreglinger: Theologian, author, and wine expert who grew up on a German winery. Wine as a Spiritual Practice: Wine isn't just for drinking—it can shape conversations, enhance meals, and even act as a form of prayer. Biblical Roots of Wine: Exploring wine’s significance in Scripture, including the Passover tradition of four cups of wine, Noah’s vineyard, and Jesus’ first miracle at the Wedding of Cana. Cultural Differences in Wine Consumption: How European wine traditions differ from America’s relationship with alcohol and why that matters. Holy Tipsiness: The fine line between drinking as an act of joy and overindulgence. Reclaiming Wine in Christian Practice: How churches have distanced themselves from wine and why Gisela believes it’s time to restore its sacred role. Wines in This Episode: 🍷 2020 Coastline Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon (Paso Robles, California) – A fruit-forward yet balanced cab with notes of blackberry, pipe tobacco, and wet gravel. 🍷 Moulin-à-Vent from the Dichon family (Beaujolais, France) – A full-bodied Gamay with rich complexity, imported by Kermit Lynch. Final Thoughts: This episode isn’t just for wine lovers—it’s for anyone interested in the intersection of faith, culture, and connection. Whether you’re a casual drinker or a wine aficionado, Gisela’s insights will make you rethink the way you experience wine. Listen now and join the conversation! 🍇🍷 Links: The Spirituality of Wine The Soul of Wine Cup Overflowing Wine in the Word Gisela's website Gisela on Instagram -------------- Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in Cabernet and Pray is an authentic, thoughtfully curated, human-hosted podcast that is free, but not cheap. Please consider supporting the content Jeremy creates by joining the Rebuilding Faith patron community and get access to exclusive content and experiences. Find out more here: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups…

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#41: Why Christianity is Unfair 32:03

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Is karma real? Or does Jesus operate in a way that turns our sense of fairness upside down? In this episode, we dive into one of Jesus’ most radical parables from Matthew 20, exploring why fairness might not be the point—and why that’s actually good news. Grab a glass of wine and join us for a thought-provoking discussion on grace, justice, and what it really means to follow Jesus. Click here to watch the episode on video. Featured Wine: 🍷 Destino Red Blend (2019) – Fifth Empire, Portugal A rich and dark blend featuring Touriga Nacional, known for its bold character. Notes of plum and blueberry, balanced with smooth complexity from four different grapes. Key Discussion Points: The Myth of Karma vs. Jesus’ Radical Grace: While karma teaches that you get what you deserve, Jesus flips this idea upside down, offering generosity instead of fairness. The Parable of the Vineyard (Matthew 20): A landowner pays all workers the same wage—whether they worked 12 hours or just one. What does this reveal about God’s character? Fairness vs. Generosity: How do we react when others receive grace that we feel they don’t deserve? Jealousy & God's Kindness: Are we bothered when God blesses those we deem "unworthy"? Personal Reflection: Is Jesus enough for us, or do we need others to "lose" for us to feel like we've won? Takeaway: Instead of keeping score, what if we embraced a world where grace, not fairness, defines our faith? Jesus invites us to welcome others into the vineyard—are we celebrating or gatekeeping? ----------------- Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in Cabernet and Pray is an authentic, thoughtfully curated, human-hosted podcast that is free, but not cheap. Please consider supporting the content Jeremy creates by joining the Rebuilding Faith patron community. Find out more here: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/rebuilding-faith…

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#40: The New Evangelicals (with Tim Whitaker) 1:02:36

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Join Jeremy and Tim Whitaker, founder of The New Evangelicals, for an unfiltered and entertaining conversation tackling tough topics in faith, church culture, and beyond—all while sipping on wine. Whether you're wrestling with your faith, navigating church hurt, or just curious about new perspectives, this episode delivers humor, depth, and a lot of honesty. Don’t miss Tim’s unforgettable attempt at opening his first bottle of wine and his bold insights on Christianity today. Click here to watch the episode on video. Key Points Covered in Episode 40: Introduction of Tim Whitaker and The New Evangelicals: The organization supports those grappling with faith and church hurt. Focus on creating a safe space for exploring progressive Christianity. Tagline: “Faith isn’t easy, hurt makes it harder.” Wine Talk: Jeremy enjoys a Story of Soil Syrah 2022 with notes of red plum, blueberry, and vanilla bean. Tim hilariously opens his first bottle of wine, Joel Gott 815 Cabernet Sauvignon 2021 , adding an unplanned comedy segment. Tim’s Faith Journey: From a conservative evangelical upbringing to a more inclusive, justice-focused Christianity. Critiques of political entanglements in modern evangelicalism. Emphasis on expanding one’s faith perspective beyond denominational boundaries. Advocating for the Marginalized: Discussions on supporting LGBTQ+ individuals, immigrants, and other underrepresented groups within and outside the church. The pitfalls of using theology to oppress rather than liberate. Engaging with the Bible: Tim’s shift from viewing the Bible as a rulebook to embracing it as a complex, nuanced collection of writings. Encouragement to focus on Jesus’ teachings of love, justice, and inclusion. Parenting and Faith: Should kids be raised in the same traditional church settings their parents left? Tim argues for raising children with openness and curiosity rather than indoctrination. Criticism and Accountability in the Church: Challenges of holding leaders and institutions accountable while staying hopeful. The role of Christians in advocating for justice and resisting harmful ideologies like Christian nationalism. Tim’s Take on Digital Content Creation: Balancing fast-paced news reactions with thoughtful analysis. Addressing negativity from critics while staying grounded. Lightning Round Questions: Tim’s past belief he was wrong about: thinking LGBTQ+ people were inherently sinful. Main issue facing American Christianity: the rise of Christian nationalism. This episode is perfect for anyone exploring new ways to engage with their faith or questioning traditional church teachings. Tim’s candidness, combined with his humor and passion, makes this an unforgettable conversation. Grab a glass of wine and join the ride! Links: https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865 https://www.instagram.com/thenewevangelicals/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1czIuPbjXFt50L2fxHmdUe https://www.tiktok.com/@thenewevangelicals https://www.instagram.com/timwhitakerspeaks/ ----------------- Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in Cabernet and Pray is an authentic, thoughtfully curated, human-hosted podcast that is free, but not cheap. Please consider supporting the content Jeremy creates by joining the Rebuilding Faith patron community. Find out more here: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/rebuilding-faith…

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#39: The Worst Chapter in the Bible 30:29

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What happens when the God of the Old Testament seems unrecognizable next to the Jesus of the New Testament? In this thought-provoking episode of Cabernet and Pray , we tackle what Jeremy calls “the worst chapter in the Bible,” Numbers 31. Together, we confront the shocking themes of revenge, violence, and divine commands that seem incompatible with the love of Jesus. With a glass of Sokol Blosser 2021 Pinot Noir in hand, we explore how ancient contexts and human perceptions of God shape scripture—and what this means for our faith today. Don’t miss this deep dive into the Bible’s most challenging narratives. Click here to watch the episode on video. Wines Featured : Sokol Blosser 2021 Watershed Block Pinot Noir Notes of potting soil, dried leaves, cranberry, raspberry, and clove. A perfect pairing for deep conversations about theology. Key Discussion Points : Introduction to Numbers 31 : Jeremy reflects on the challenges faced as a pastor in interpreting the Old Testament. Focus on Numbers 31: a chapter filled with revenge, violence, and troubling divine commands. A Brutal Look at Numbers 31 : God commands Moses to wage a war of revenge against the Midianites. Controversial instructions to kill men, women, and boys, sparing only virgin girls, presented as plunder. The unsettling notion of 32 virgins being allocated as God’s share of the spoils. Reconciling Numbers 31 with the Nature of Jesus : The difficulty of aligning Numbers 31 with the nonviolent, sacrificial love exemplified by Jesus. Examples of misinterpretation: Justifying actions like the Crusades by blending Old Testament violence with Christian theology. Historical and Cultural Context : Insights from early church father Origen: When a passage seems unworthy of God, seek deeper spiritual meaning. Greg Boyd’s Cross Vision : God’s willingness to meet people in their context, even when their understanding is limited. Andy Stanley’s Irresistible : The importance of unhitching modern faith from Old Testament practices and covenantal frameworks. A Framework for Interpretation : Jesus as the clearest image of God: “What God looks like when there are no clouds in the way.” Viewing problematic Old Testament passages as reflections of human culture and sin, not divine character. Takeaways for Faith : Christians don’t need to fear difficult scriptures but must read them through the lens of Jesus. Numbers 31 reveals more about ancient Israelites’ worldview than about God’s true nature. The Bible’s ultimate purpose is to point us to Jesus, the unclouded vision of God. Jeremy leaves listeners with the challenge to dig deeper into scripture, trusting that a clearer picture of God emerges through Jesus. Christians can engage with difficult passages and grow a faith rooted in love, humility, and understanding. ----------- Do you want to read the Bible without falling behind? Sign up your email and I'll send you a PDF to download and use my custom-made reading plan system. There's no way to fall behind on this system and every day will be different no matter how long you use it! https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in Cabernet and Pray is an authentic, thoughtfully curated, human-hosted podcast that is free, but not cheap. Please consider supporting the content Jeremy creates by joining the Rebuilding Faith patron community. Find out more here: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/rebuilding-faith…

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#38: Loving Jesus Too Much 33:10

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Can you love Jesus so much that it leaves others feeling unloved? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray , we unpack a poignant quote from A.W. Tozer’s widow that has sparked a surprising amount of debate among Christians. Join us as we dive into what it truly means to balance a love for God with a love for others, all while sipping on a gorgeous 2021 Archers Crest Pinot Noir. This episode will surely challenge your perspective on faith, relationships, and how we express our devotion. Click here to watch the episode on video. Key Points Event Reminder : The Wine and Whiskey Weekend is February 21–23 in Oregon, featuring tastings and deep conversations about life and faith. Find out more here: https://communionwineco.com/events/wine-and-whiskey/ The A.W. Tozer Debate : Tozer’s widow, Ada, famously stated: “Aiden [Tozer] loved Jesus Christ, but Leonard Odom loves me.” This comment sparks questions about whether a strong love for Jesus can coexist with loving others deeply. Tozer’s writings emphasized the centrality of God, yet his personal relationships provide a complex lens for understanding how faith and love intersect. Key Biblical Insights : Matthew 22:36-39: Jesus teaches that loving God and loving others are equally important. Matthew 25: Acts of love toward others are acts of love toward Jesus. Luke 14:26: Jesus uses hyperbole to stress prioritizing God but not at the expense of failing to love others. Listener Reactions : Varied and passionate responses to the original video included victim-shaming Ada, misinterpretations of biblical texts, and defenses of Tozer’s priorities. Highlights the broader issue of separating love for Jesus from love for people, a dichotomy that the episode argues is unbiblical. Wine Feature : 2021 Archers Crest Pinot Noir from Archery Summit in Oregon. Notes of cranberry, raspberry, clove, and mushroom make this refreshing red a perfect pairing for deep conversation. The Challenge : Loving Jesus means seeing Him in those around us, including our spouses, neighbors, and even adversaries. Can you truly love God without loving people? This episode pushes listeners to evaluate their own faith practices. Call to Action : Pour yourself a glass of wine and reflect on how your love for God translates into love for others. Join us for this candid discussion that blends theology, wine appreciation, and a fresh take on what it means to live out your faith. Cheers to loving well!…

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#37: Church in the Brewery (with Mark McKinney) 1:10:39

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Click here to watch the episode on video. In this episode, we explore the creative expressions of the church with Mark McKinney, an innovator who is challenging traditional church structures. We dive into the unpredictability of faith journeys, the critical need for true discipleship in modern Christianity, and the fascinating intersection of faith and technology. Mark shares his experiences leading Reunion, a trauma-informed church in a brewery, and reflects on the importance of serving communities authentically. We explore themes of flexibility, adaptation, and humility in ministry, highlighting how unconventional spaces and approaches can foster genuine connections and support for those often overlooked by traditional church settings. Tune in for an inspiring discussion about reimagining church, community engagement, and nurturing a culture of inclusivity and healing. Whether you're a church leader, believer, or someone curious about innovative faith practices, this episode will surely offer thought-provoking insights and encouragement. Wines in this episode: 2022 Black Cloud 2022 Juggernaut Links: Reunion's church website Mark on Instagram…

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#36: Star-Spangled Jesus (with April Ajoy) 1:05:34

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Today we're diving deep into the complexities of faith, politics, and personal transformation with our guest, April Ajoy. April, an author and content creator known for her book "Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith," joins us to unpack the deconstruction movement among white evangelicals questioning their support for Trump, especially post-2020 pandemic. In this episode, April shares her journey from promoting Christian nationalism to fostering a more inclusive spirituality. We'll discuss the potential impact of another Trump presidency on evangelical communities, the rising need for supportive spaces for those exiting these conservative circles, and how April uses her past experiences to challenge harmful beliefs without alienation. We'll also touch on the contradictions within Christian nationalism, the challenges of patriarchy and misogyny in theology, and the transformative power of engaging with differing beliefs. April shares personal anecdotes, including her enlightening experiences with her children's faith education and the humorous beginnings of her wine-tasting adventures. Wines in this episode: 2016 Clos Floridene Peach white wine Links: April's book April's Instagram April's TikTok April's Threads…

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#35: The Wicked Servant 28:28

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Interested in staying in one of our short-term rentals in wine country? Click here to see our two homes. In today's episode, Jeremy shares some exciting personal updates, including the opening of a second rental property in Oregon wine country, the charmingly named "Vino Victorian." But the core of today's episode dives into a profound and possibly controversial re-examination of a familiar Biblical story from Luke 19: the tale of the wicked servant. Jeremy challenges traditional parable interpretations, suggesting we're not seeing the whole picture. What if the character we've always viewed as "wicked" represents a more Christ-like stance? Join Jeremy as he unpacks this compelling perspective, drawing intriguing connections to Jesus's teachings and inviting listeners to see this parable in a new light. Whether navigating today's tumultuous world or seeking deeper spiritual insights, this episode promises to offer fresh, thought-provoking content. So grab a glass of something rich and flavorful, sit back, and let's dive into another episode of "Cabernet and Pray." Wine in this episode: 2019 Quinta Das Carvalhas from Duoro, Portugal…

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#34: American Idolatry (with Andrew Whitehead) 1:03:05

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Click here to watch the episode on video. We're thrilled to have Andrew Whitehead, an esteemed professor of sociology and author of "American Idolatry: How Christian Nationalism Betrays the Gospel and Threatens the Church." In this episode, we dive into the complex world of Christian nationalism in America through Andrew's insightful lens. We explore the idea that changing minds often requires more than cold, hard facts; it demands empathy, asking the right questions, and building genuine relationships. Andrew shares personal reflections on America's history, scrutinizing the narrative of it being a "Christian nation" in light of its checkered past. We'll touch upon the provocative "inverted golden rule," navigating echo chambers, and the tension between disengagement and necessary political advocacy. You'll also hear thought-provoking discussions on how power should be wielded for justice, the importance of listening to marginalized voices, and balancing faithfulness with the often flawed pursuit of efficiency. We also have some lighter moments, from Andrew's memorable wine experience in Florence, Italy, to enlightening takes on quantum physics and arm wrestling. Wines in this episode: 2021 Ghost Pines Cabernet 2021 Federalist Cabernet Links: American Idolatry Andrew's Substack Andrew's Instagram Andrew's X…

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#33: Space Racism 35:20

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Want to join us on a wine and whiskey trip to Oregon? Find out more HERE . In this episode, we’re diving deep into the fascinating intersection of faith and technology, responding to your comments and critiques about our previous discussion on the ethics of robots. From accusations of irrelevance to insightful parallels with historical exclusion in Christianity, we’re tackling it all. I address the arrogance and disdain some feel towards robotic sentience and, humorously, whether churches would accept robots if they could contribute financially. We’ll also explore the historical patterns of exclusion in Christianity—particularly towards women and the LGBTQ+ community—drawing from historical events and figures like Augustine. Our chat will challenge you to reflect on inclusivity in faith, considering whether we could or should extend our understanding of community to future technological beings like robots, clones, or even aliens. Plus, I’ll share some exciting details about an upcoming wine and whiskey trip to Oregon, designed to blend tasting sessions with deep discussions about faith. So grab a glass of wine, sit back, and let's journey through these provocations and insights together. Are we ready to expand our vision of inclusion, or will we continue to draw lines in the sand? Wine in this episode: Dolce Rosso Lambrusco…

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#32: Tell Me When I Get There (with Sean Palmer) 1:01:13

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Want to join us on a wine and whiskey trip to Oregon? Find out more HERE . In this episode, Sean Palmer, author and teaching pastor at Ecclesia Houston, invites us on a thought-provoking journey discussing memorable wine experiences, evolving beliefs about wealth, and the pressing challenges facing Christianity in America. Sean reflects on faith, aging, and death in a post-COVID world. Additionally, we explore the transformative impact of the Enneagram and embrace the importance of individual differences within the church. With engaging anecdotes and profound insights, this episode promises an enriching conversation about life’s transitions, the essence of community, and living thoughtfully in the face of mortality. Wines in this episode: 2021 Barrelhouse Red Blend 2022 DAOU Cabernet Sauvignon Links: Sean's book Speaking by the Numbers Sean's book Unarmed Empire Sean on Instagram Sean's website…

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#31: Robot Theology (with Joshua K. Smith) 1:06:37

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Today we dive deep into the fascinating intersection of spirituality, philosophy, and cutting-edge technology with a very special guest—Joshua K. Smith. Josh is not just a cybersecurity analyst but also a theologian, former pastor, and insightful author. As we sip on exquisite wines—Jeremy with a crisp 2021 Rex Hill Pinot Noir Rosé, and Josh enjoying a 2021 Chardonnay from The Prisoner Wine Company—our discussion navigates the thoughtful terrain of AI, robotics, and ethics. Josh challenges us to consider our relationships with robots, much like bonding with pets or inanimate objects, emphasizing the need for ethical safeguards. We draw inspiration from cultural touchstones like "Westworld" and "Ex Machina," delving into complex questions about human responsibility, the evolution of technology, and its potential to reshape our understanding of identity and servitude. Josh shares his evolving theological perspectives, questioning traditional doctrines and advocating for inclusive, philosophical conversations. Buckle up for an intellectually stimulating ride that doesn't shy away from our time's moral and ethical dilemmas, all while exploring how age-old theological inquiries can be re-examined through the lens of modern technology. Whether you're a tech enthusiast, spiritual seeker, or curious mind, this episode offers something profound. Wines in this episode: 2021 Rex Hill Pinot Noir Rosé 2021 Prisoner Wine Company Chardonnay Links: Josh's Instagram…

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#30: Do You Still Talk to Grandma? (with Brit Barron) 52:34

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Click here to watch the episode on video. We're celebrating a significant milestone—our 30th episode! We talk with Brit Baron, speaker, storyteller, and author of the compelling new book, "Do You Still Talk to Grandma?" Brit reflects on her journey of evolving beliefs and personal growth, touching on the psychological concept of cognitive closure and how it shapes our decision-making and beliefs. We'll discuss distinguishing between primary and secondary beliefs, the challenges of navigating social justice work, and the importance of embracing mistakes as a path to growth. We'll also touch on timely and poignant topics like the controversial actions of public figures, the evolving perceptions of societal issues, and the need for empathy in transformative conversations. Brit's personal anecdotes and profound reflections will inspire you to hold multiple realities and approach life's complexities with patience and openness. Get ready for an engaging conversation packed with wisdom, humor, and powerful storytelling. So grab your glass of wine, settle in, and let's dive into a heartfelt journey of faith, growth, and understanding. Wine in this episode: 2021 Dobbes Grenache Blanc Links: Brit's new book: Do You Still Talk to Grandma? Brit's Instagram Brit's website: BritBarron.com…

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#29: The Space Between Us (with Sarah Bauer Anderson) 1:09:56

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome to another episode of "Cabernet and Pray." In today's episode, we sit down with Sarah Bauer Anderson, a deeply insightful author whose journey of faith and personal growth offers a compelling narrative for anyone navigating the complexities of religion, politics, and family dynamics. About 15 years ago, Sarah's faith shifted during her pregnancy with her oldest child, leading her to embrace mystery, curiosity, and a broader spectrum of theological thought, including Eastern Orthodoxy. Sarah shares her fascinating evolution from a conservative upbringing, exploring different atonement theories and moving towards restorative justice and universal reconciliation. Her book, "The Space Between Us," delves into how Jesus teaches us to live together amidst political and religious divides. Jeremy and Sarah discuss the significance of food and drink in bridging divides, the emotional foundations behind political beliefs, and the importance of approaching differing opinions with curiosity and understanding. Join us as we explore the transformative power of open dialogue, mutual respect, and the wisdom to choose which battles are truly worth fighting in our relationships. Whether you're struggling with evolving beliefs, navigating family dynamics, or simply curious about how to foster healthier conversations, this episode promises valuable insights and heartfelt narratives. Wines in this episode: 2021 Archery Summit Paradox Pinot Noir 2021 Conundrum Red Blend Links: Sarah's book: The Space Between Us Sarah on Instagram Sarah on X…

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#28: The Word Became Speechless 32:58

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Today, we explore the "Word of God." Do you share the belief that the Bible holds the ultimate authority? Or do you see Jesus as the living "Word of God" that John 1 speaks of? We'll wrestle with these questions and more. In this episode, we'll journey through the rich and often paradoxical imagery of the lion and the lamb as presented in Revelation. We'll contrast the popular expectation of a conquering lion with the profound revelation of Jesus as the sacrificial lamb, the only one worthy to wield God's power. Along the way, I'll share insights about making room for a God who can be speechless and what that silence might mean in our own lives, especially in our darkest moments. We'll also delve into the tension between desiring a predictable, accessible deity and embracing the wild, unexpected freedom of God. Expect a deep dive into scripture, reflections inspired by theologian Walter Brueggemann, and powerful stories like that of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Plus, I'll reveal the personal significance behind my tattoo of a sheep with a crown, a subtle nod to my stand against the machismo mantra of "lions, not sheep." So grab your favorite glass of wine, find a quiet spot, and prepare for an episode that challenges traditional feel-good messages, encourages introspection over easy answers, and ultimately invites us to trust in a God who surpasses all our expectations. Wine in this episode: 2021 Arabella Chenin Blanc Reserve your spot for the September 9th tasting event in Gilbert. https://communionwineco.com/events/az-tasting-event/…

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#27: Ministers of Propaganda (with Scott Coley) 52:24

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Click here to watch the episode on video. In this episode, we have Scott M. Coley, a philosophy lecturer at Mount St. Mary's University and author of an intriguing new book. We explore the spiritual side of propaganda and how it's used in religious contexts. We tackle some thought-provoking topics, including the oft-heard phrase "I don't see color," the loaded concept of "law and order," and the alarming presence of authoritarianism within the church. Scott shares his personal journey of faith over the past decade and how his theological commitments have evolved. We also reframe the hot-button issue of evangelical deconstruction, examining it through the lens of decoding the propaganda embedded within the religious right's ideology. Join us for this stimulating discussion, which will challenge your perspective and make you think critically about the complex interplay of faith, politics, and social justice. Wine in this episode: 2021 Brokenwood Semillon Links: Scott's book: Ministers of Propaganda Scott's account on X Scott's account on Instagram…

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#26: The Fear Peddlers 33:42

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Today we're diving into a topic that often stirs deep emotions in the Christian community: fear (and the shame that often follows). We'll unpack the roots of fear, often instilled by religious leaders, and challenge it with biblical insights from 1 Corinthians. We’ll also have an honest conversation about the role of fear in religious teachings and how it can shape our beliefs and actions in unhealthy ways. I’ll share personal stories, including an attempt I saw to convert a tough gentleman with scare tactics, and we’ll reflect on whether such approaches truly align with Christian values. Plus, we’ll explore the notion from 1 John 4 that living in love means living in tune with God and why perfect love expels fear. Join me as we question, reflect, and strive for a faith driven by love, not fear. Cheers! Wine in this episode: 2020 Dominio IV Tempranillo Rosé…

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#25: From Church to Cocktails (with Jordan Hughes) 1:34:17

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome to "Cabernet and Pray," episode 25! Today we are joined by Jordan Hughes, also known as the "High Proof Preacher." Jordan, a renowned commercial photographer and videographer from Portland, Oregon, shares his journey from growing up in a church-centric life to becoming a cocktail expert and social media influencer. Delving deep into the art of spirit-forward cocktails, Jordan emphasizes the importance of quality ingredients, his preference for Luxardo cherries, and the joy of using good spirits. We'll take a heartfelt journey as Jordan recounts his upbringing, his family's history with alcohol, and the pivotal moment that led him to question his faith and career. From making his mark in the cocktail industry to navigating the complexities of parenthood amid significant personal and societal changes, Jordan's story is one of transformation and resilience. Tune in as we discuss everything from the nuances of great cocktails and the challenges of deconstructing faith, to the exciting world of spirit photography and the impact of political polarization on Christianity. Jordan's insights are sure to inspire, whether you're a cocktail enthusiast, a parent, or someone re-evaluating your beliefs. Wines in this episode: 2018 Brunello Di Montalcino Landmass Wines 2022 RU OK Pet Nat Links: https://www.highproofpreacher.com https://www.cocktailcamera.com…

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#24: Blood From a Stone (with Adam McHugh) 56:17

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Click here to watch the episode on video. In this episode, we sit down with Adam McHugh, a former hospice chaplain turned sommelier and wine tour guide, as we dive into a fascinating conversation blending spirituality, personal transformation, and the world of wine. Adam, the author of the memoir "Blood from a Stone," shares his remarkable journey from ministry to the vineyards of Santa Ynez Valley, shedding light on how this transition reshaped his faith and identity. He opens up about the memorable moments and meaningful connections he’s made through wine and how his experiences in the wine industry parallel the sacraments of Christianity—emphasizing simplicity, beauty, and community. Together, we explore how stepping away from traditional religious roles allowed us to uncover new perspectives and spiritual depths, all while savoring the wine in our glasses. Join us as we discuss the importance of not stereotyping others, the value of genuine listening, and the miraculous elements found in both wine and faith. Plus, Adam shares some light-hearted stories about reactions to his career shift. Pour yourself a glass and tune in for an episode brimming with honesty, humor, and heartfelt reflection. Wines in this episode: 2021 Mourvèdre from Saarloos and Sons Story of Soil Bentrock Vineyard Pinot Noir Links: Adam's latest book: Blood from a Stone Adam's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adammchughwine/ Adam's Linktree page: https://linktr.ee/adammchugh…

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#23: Living in Love (with Greg Boyd) 1:30:24

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Click here to watch the episode on video. This week, we are joined by the insightful and influential Christian scholar Greg Boyd, who brings three decades of pastoral experience from Woodland Hills Church and a robust body of theological writings. In this episode, we dive into the intriguing concept of sensory bubbles, exploring how they shape our perception of reality and God's transcendence. Greg Boyd shares his thoughts on cataphatic and apophatic prayer, the humility inspired by Thomas Aquinas' realizations, and the balance between Jesus' divinity and humanity in orthodox Christology. The conversation takes a dynamic turn as we discuss atonement theories, Satan's influence, and the emerging divide within Christian circles around the response to power. Boyd also opens up about his journey with ADHD, the significance of staying distinct from societal polarization, and the profound lessons learned through humility and love. With humor, transparency, and a shared love for theology, we navigate through challenging topics such as the LGBTQ dialogue, climate crisis response, and the legitimacy of power in public life while keeping the spirit light with anecdotes about wine tasting and ministry life. Join us for an engaging and thoughtful conversation that promises a deeper understanding of faith, love, and the transformative power of keeping Jesus at the center. Grab your favorite glass of wine and tune in to this rich episode of "Cabernet and Pray." Wines in this episode: 2021 The Prisoner Red Wine 2020 Francis Ford Coppola Merlot Links: Greg's website: reknew.org Greg's Church: whchurch.org…

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#22: From Ocean Waves to Rooftop Dreams (with Kevin Sweeney) 1:07:11

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome to another episode of "Cabernet and Pray," where faith meets everyday life over a glass of fine wine. I'm your host, Jeremy Jernigan, and today, we're thrilled to have a thought-provoking and dynamic guest, Kevin Sweeney. Kevin, a pastor, podcast host, and author from Hawaii dives deep into the essence of faith, personal growth, and the challenges of evolving beliefs. In this episode, Kevin illuminates the significance of direct experience in faith and the limiting nature of mere argument. We explore the complexities of tribal belonging, the grief of evolving beyond one's tribe, and the power of embracing change. Kevin shares how his podcast, "The Church Needs Therapy," and his mystical perspective on traditional beliefs aim to guide people toward genuine spiritual awakening. We'll also discuss the vital issues facing Christianity in America today, the unconscious wounds of our collective history, and the urgent need for honesty and integration. As we navigate these profound themes, Kevin's light-hearted anecdotes and passion for wine and surfing add a delightful dimension to our conversation. Join us as we sip on some beverages, explore the depths of faith and consciousness, and hear about Kevin's exciting new projects, including the Rooftop Alliance. What we're drinking: 2019 Hall Cabernet Sauvignon Juneshine Hard Kombucha Links: KevinSweeneyNow.com Podcast: The Church Needs Therapy Kevin's Instagram…

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#21: Breaking the Stigma 44:45

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome back to another episode of Cabernet and Pray. Today, we pause our usual schedule to address a deeply personal and pressing topic that challenges many families: mental health. Our host, Jeremy Jernigan, explores a video of John MacArthur to dissect and debate the contentious views circulating within the Christian community about mental illness. In this introspective episode, Jeremy opens up about his family's journey in seeking help for their son's severe mental health challenges amidst societal skepticism and stigma. We explore the alarming divorce rates among couples with children facing similar struggles and the uphill battle against a system often lacking in empathy and support. Tensions rise as we share clips of John MacArthur's controversial stance on mental health diagnoses like PTSD, OCD, and ADHD, which he dismisses as fabrications by "big pharma." Jeremy counters with his own heartfelt experiences, advocating for a compassionate approach and emphasizing that mental illness is neither a parenting failure nor a new phenomenon. Instead, he calls for a supportive and understanding community that recognizes and affirms the reality of mental health. Join us in this thought-provoking episode as we delve into the theology, personal stories, and the call for a more empathetic and informed Christian response to mental health. This conversation is sure to resonate with anyone affected by mental health issues and those seeking a more inclusive faith-based dialogue. So, pour yourself a glass of wine, and let's dive into the heavy but necessary conversations on this special episode of Cabernet and Pray. Wine in this episode: 2019 Puerta de Plata…

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Disarming Leviathan (with Caleb Campbell) 1:09:20

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Click here to watch the episode on video. As we uncork the 20th episode of Cabernet and Pray, I'm joined by Caleb Campbell, not just to relish in our shared love for a fine Cabernet Sauvignon but to unpack the complexities of Christian nationalism. Caleb, a pastor and author, brings his upcoming book "Disarming Leviathan: Loving your Christian Nationalist Neighbor" to the table, serving up a compassionate perspective on an issue that's stirring the pot in our societal fabric. Together, we navigate the fine line between fellowship and ideology, examining how our understanding of scripture can be distorted and offering a toast to wisdom and authenticity in our communities. Have you ever found yourself in a place where reaching across the aisle felt more like crossing enemy lines? This episode reveals Caleb's personal journey through missionary work amidst American Christian nationalism, where an environment of division is met with a message of restoration. Through stories of heart-to-heart engagement and the cultivation of genuine empathy, we shed light on the transformative power of spiritual well-being in bridging divides. As we tackle the concept of 'hermeneutical magic,' we guide listeners on how to spot when scripture is being twisted by opportunists masquerading as shepherds. Wrapping up with a blend of personal victories and shared struggles, this podcast episode is a testament to resilience. From the trials of 2020, where Caleb led a congregation through the storm, to the joys of discovery in a French wine cellar, we take you through moments that have shaped his understanding of leadership, community, and self-care. Caleb's insights, brimming with practical wisdom, elevate our conversation, reminding us of the strength in diverse and authentic communities, the hope that lies ahead with upcoming book releases, and the warm anticipation of family vacations. Raise your glass with us as this episode celebrates the journey of faith, the power of community, and the courage to embrace our differences. Links: Disarming Leviathan book https://www.facebook.com/people/Disarming-Leviathan/ https://twitter.com/DisarmingL https://www.instagram.com/disarmingleviathan/…

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Personal Trials and the Alaskan Wilds 37:57

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Pour yourself a glass and settle in as we embark on a journey through the peaks and valleys of life with unwavering gratitude. I'll pull back the curtain on the heart-wrenching journey my wife and I have navigated after a startling genetic revelation. With the discovery of her BRCA2 gene mutation, we've faced the specter of cancer with courage and an unexpected thankfulness. This isn't just our story—it's a guiding light for anyone wrestling with life's unforeseen tests, a beacon of how gratitude can anchor us even as we weather the fiercest of storms. Our recent family odyssey to Alaska—a stark departure from our norm—reveals the transformative power of vision boards and the serendipity that life has to offer. Imagine being hilariously underprepared for the Arctic chill, yet so vividly alive amid dog sledding escapades and the ethereal dance of the Northern Lights. This tale isn't just about our leaps into the unknown; it's an invitation to embrace the beauty that abounds when we seize the day, trading comfort zones for unforgettable experiences. As we draw the curtains on this episode, I invite you to contemplate the profound insights shared by John Gottman on the resilience of relationships and Christine Pohl on finding solace amid life's unresolved challenges. Together, we explore the wisdom in appreciating our differences and choosing gratitude, even when neat resolutions evade us. It's a reflection on the strength we find in the unlikeliest places, and the grace that cradles us, even when life's chapters remain open-ended.…

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Embracing a Different Path (with Nate Ross) 1:11:41

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Click here to watch the episode on video. There's something magical about reconnecting with an old friend who’s walked a similar path, and that's exactly what unfolds when Nate Ross joins me for a soul-stirring exploration of faith, parenting, and personal growth. As fellow pastor's sons turned pastors, we traverse the memories of our past, from Nate's transformative years in the Midwest to his meaningful ministry in Indiana, and onto his latest venture, Moments to Movements. Grab a glass of wine and settle in as we celebrate the wisdom of our mentors, the lessons learned, and the pivotal changes that have shaped our lives. Our conversation doesn't shy away from the nuanced shifts in our faith journeys over the last decade, which have moved from a drive for tireless effort to a grace-filled embrace of the faithfulness of Jesus. The past years, especially those marked by the pandemic, have peeled back the curtain on the sometimes-dissonant relationship between hard work and expected outcomes. The vulnerability in our chat reveals the pressures of performing in a faith culture and the liberating realization that embracing one’s unique calling is a path to true freedom and authenticity. Navigating the modern parenting challenges, we share from the trenches, addressing how we impart values and faith in a world vastly different from the one we grew up in. The omnipresence of technology and its impact on our children's lives is a conversation we tackle head-on, offering candid thoughts on managing digital engagement while fostering personal development. Our heart-to-heart is a tapestry of leadership, faith, and the quest for genuine community, inviting listeners to reflect on their own paths and discover the beauty in life's transitions. Wines we enjoyed in this episode: 2019 Thorn-Clarke Shotfire Shiraz 2020 J. Lohr Cabernet MomentstoMovements.com…

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From Stoic Thought to Christian Action (with Mike Austin) 1:05:06

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Click here to watch the episode on video. When minds converge over the profound intersections of philosophy and the Christian faith, revelations emerge. Mike Austin, a philosophy professor with a deft touch in character development and spiritual formation, joins me to unravel the tapestry of truth that philosophies like Stoicism weave with Christianity. Our conversation extends beyond the intellectual into the personal, sharing how our beliefs have matured and become more focused with time. We also raise a toast to the virtues of humility as outlined in Mike's latest book, savoring both the complex notes of our chosen wines and the rich layers of living a life modeled after Jesus. A sense of divine connection can often feel elusive, but this episode pulls back the veil to reveal how community and silence are gateways to experiencing God's presence. We share stories of finding God in the quiet and among fellow believers, considering how relationships within the church embody Christ's love. As we touch upon the transformation of evangelical witness, we underscore the significance of authentic friendships and living out Christ's love in practical ways—a message reinforced by the inspiring legacy of Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his call to social responsibility. Embarking on a personal turn, we tackle the poignant shift from supporting self-defense to advocating for pacifism, a transformative journey informed by the non-violent teachings of Jesus. Discussing the tensions between self-protection and the principles of turning the other cheek, we draw on historical figures like Bonhoeffer, grappling with the complexities of living out our faith. As we conclude, the conversation ventures into the broader challenges facing Christianity in America, from social media engagements to the need for humility in our spiritual journey. Join us for an episode that's not just a tasting of fine wines but also an invitation to savor the encouragement and growth found in our shared pursuit of a deeper faith. Wines we enjoyed in this episode: Chateau L’Hospitalet Chenault Vineyards Cabernet Franc 2021 Links: Humility: Rediscovering the Way of Love and Life in Christ MichaelWAustin.com linktr.ee/michaelwaustin…

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Laughing at the Absurdity (with Rob Bell) 1:06:22

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Click here to watch the podcast on video. We sit down with the ever-inspiring Rob Bell, whose journey from founding Mars Hill Bible Church to penning New York Times bestsellers has captivated the minds and hearts of many. Rob's latest fictional escapade lures us into a world that mirrors our own, prompting self-reflection and an adventurous examination of the societal constructs that shape our reality. As we sip on Rob's unconventional choice of beverage, we unravel the intricacies of character development, the power of naming, and the unexpected impact of bread as a life-affirming metaphor within the tapestry of his narrative. Navigating the complexities of modern society, our conversation with Rob ventures into the realms of political polarization, wealth inequality, and the poignant struggles of homelessness. Through Heen Gru-bare's fictional journey in "Where'd You Park Your Spaceship," we are invited to contemplate the pressing issues beneath the surface of our daily lives. The laughter and wisdom that ensue encourage listeners to question the status quo as we ponder the ethics of policies and the true meaning of community in the context of our shared humanity. In the quieter moments of our dialogue, we reflect on the profound shifts personal growth brings to our lives. Sharing stories of transitions challenging the heart, Rob and I discuss the bittersweet nature of closing chapters and the courage it takes to step into the unknown. The resonance of change, the appreciation for the artistic process, and the shared inspiration that transcends generations leave us with a sense of gratitude for the journey and the connections we forge along the way. Join us as we uncover the layers of Rob Bell's artistic vision and the messages that beckon us to look inward and embrace the beauty of evolution in our own lives. Links: Where'd You Park Your Spaceship www.RobBell.com…

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Honor and Prepare (with Keith Saarloos) 1:41:12

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Click here to watch the episode on video. When Keith Saarloos swapped apple rows for vineyard vines, little did he know he'd be uncorking a legacy along with his bottles of 2021 Mayhem Grenache. As we sit down, glasses in hand, Keith takes us through the transformation of Saarloos and Sons, revealing how a family farm evolved into a vineyard with deep respect for tradition and terroir. Through our conversation, we wander down the less-traveled paths of the wine industry, uncovering the rugged beauty of stress-cultivated vines and the intimate moments that life, wine, and companionship can brew. Amidst sips of vibrant Grenache, our chat meanders from the whimsical pairing of cupcakes with wine, to Keith's unorthodox perspectives on faith and spirituality found within the pages of the Bible. We even delve into the artistic contributions of underdogs and the unbreakable spirit of creating beauty against the odds. Keith's tales are interwoven with reflections on crafting wines that embody the family's soul, resisting the pull of fleeting trends, and likening his wine-making philosophy to a punk band's ethos—always authentic, always unique. As we wrap up our episode, the conversation turns personal, touching on deep-seated satisfaction over fleeting happiness, the quest for generational wealth that surpasses monetary value, and the richness of life's simple joys. With Keith's vivid storytelling, you can explore the parallels between winemaking and life's larger questions, leaving you to ponder the legacy we each hope to leave behind. So, pour yourself a glass and join us for a journey into the heart of wine, family, excitement, and the stories that bind us all. Wines by Saarloos and Sons Links: Website: SaarloosAndSons.com Instagram: @Saarloosandsons…

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French Winemaking and Spiritual Discovery (with Nicholas Martin) 56:59

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Embark with us as we weave through the tapestry of France's rich vinicultural narrative alongside Nicholas Martin, a vintner whose stories are as robust as his Grenache Blanc. Picture yourself nestled in the picturesque Languedoc region, where every sip uncovers layers of heritage and innovation. We kick things off with a New Jersey Concord grape-based red that transports you back to childhood memories with its nostalgic taste, setting the stage for an episode steeped in tradition and personal tales from the art of winemaking. Have you ever pondered the intersections of spirituality and a good bottle of wine? Our conversation takes an unexpected turn, transcending the vineyard as Nick recounts an encounter where a sermon on winemaking and faith struck a chord with an atheist French visitor. Through this dialogue, we unravel Nick's eclectic spiritual journey and the universal language of wine that bridges diverse beliefs. This episode isn't just about the notes and bouquets of fine vintages; it's a deeper foray into how our convictions and passions can coalesce in the most surprising ways. As we uncork the final segment, we toast to the evolution of French wine culture and its ripples through family traditions and global markets. Witness the transformation of the Languedoc region, once known for bulk production, now a bastion of exquisite vintages. The impending climate change, the Paris Olympics' influence on Southern France, and the vibrancy of international exchanges are all poured into this conversation. Nicholas and I don't just discuss the confluence of wine and life's finer aspects; we celebrate them, inviting you to raise your glass to an episode that's as enlightening as it is flavorful. Wines by: Valenzano Winery Julie Karsten www.awineaffair.fr…

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Returning to Eden (with Heather Hamilton) 1:26:02

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Click here to watch the episode on video. As we pop the cork on a bottle of conversation with Heather Hamilton, bestselling author of "Returning to Eden," our glasses aren't the only full things—our hearts and minds brim with insights into the ever-evolving journey of faith. Heather brings us her compelling story of transformation, from a rigid adherence to literal belief to an expansive embrace of mystical spirituality, a metamorphosis born of personal crisis and profound self-discovery. Together, we traverse the landscapes of biblical narratives and their psychological depths, finding striking correlations between the epic tales of ancient scripture and the mythological themes woven into our favorite Disney movies. It's a tapestry of thoughts that promises to adorn the walls of your understanding with new colors and textures. Embark on a voyage through the enigmatic nature of the divine as we tackle the paradoxical essence of Jesus and Christ, guided by the insights of thinkers like Richard Rohr. Our dialogue takes us through the transformative realignment of prayer, moving from a distant deity to recognizing God's presence within. As a recovering evangelical, Heather shares the intimate reshaping of her own spiritual posture, navigating the delicate balance of evolving within a faith tradition while honoring the sacredness of its roots. It is a candid reflection on the intricacies of belief, the portrayal of evil in the fabric of our stories, and the challenge of reframing these ancient concepts in a contemporary context. We culminate our session by pondering the future of Christianity, dissecting the struggles and envisioning the revitalization of communal worship through a synthesis of symbolism, ritual, and a zestful spirit. Our discussion not only questions but also celebrates the possibilities for a faith that resonates with the heartbeat of today's society. And for those thirsty for more, Heather's "Returning to Eden" serves as an invitation to continue the dialogue, to explore and exchange ideas that have the power to reshape our perspectives and enrich our spiritual dialogues. So, fellow inquisitors of the intangible, let us toast to a conversation that offers a divine sip in every word. Wines we enjoy in the episode: 2019 History Red Blend 2020 Pure Bred Cabernet Links: Book: https://amzn.to/49oYIWD Website: www.ReturningtoEden.com…

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The Sacred Pause (with Libby Tedder Hugus) 1:06:44

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Reverend Libby Tedder Hugus and I have woven together the deep complexities of spirituality and wine's rich narratives. This episode is a tapestry of our life journeys, where Libby's roots in South Africa and the U.S. intertwine with her calling to forge a radically inclusive spiritual community. Together, we unpack the transformative power of generous hospitality and the paramount importance of a communal table where diverse faiths are not just tolerated but celebrated. Our conversation meanders through the ebbs and flows of spiritual leadership and the brave decision to embrace rest and reflection, drawing insight from thinkers like Brene Brown and the enduring metaphor of Sisyphus. As Libby transitions from church leadership to the world of coaching, we explore the sacred practice of Sabbath and its counter-cultural invitation to pause from the relentless pursuit of productivity. This chapter of closure is a narrative about the courage to let go, to provide space for healing, and to discern the whispers of new beginnings amidst collective slumber keenly. The episode is rounded out with stories of audacious goals and the exhilarating pursuit of a TEDx speaking opportunity, illustrating the potency of mental fitness coaching in unlocking our 'sage brain'. Libby's tales of wine tasting in the rolling vineyards of South Africa serve as a delightful backdrop, inspiring us to savor both the literal and figurative vineyards of our lives. Join us for a session that not only decants wisdom and wit but also pours out an invitation to embrace the diverse expressions of faith and the beauty of a church community as varied as the wines we adore. Wines by: Bale's Creek Estate Il Paradiso di Frassina Brunello di Montalcino Links: https://www.youtube.com/@MentalFitnessCoachLibby https://substack.com/@dearlybelovedroundtables www.resonatenow.live/libby…

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The Death of Omnipotence (with Thomas Jay Oord) 1:11:54

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Join our thought-provoking journey with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord, where long-held Christian beliefs are questioned and reenvisioned. As we unravel the fabric of traditional theology, Dr. Oord introduces us to a divine love that's deeply relational and a God whose lack of omnipotence takes on a new, groundbreaking definition. We share anecdotes, sip our preferred drinks, and navigate through a theological landscape where certainty gives way to courageous exploration. Prepare for a conversation that challenges the intellect and seeks to enkindle the spirit. We dissect the intricate dynamics between human freedom and moral responsibility, considering how a God who influences without controlling can reshape our understanding of prayer and action. Through the lens of open and relational theology, we confront the complexities of a benevolent God and the nature of our petitions, leading us to a practice of prayer that embraces cooperation with the divine. As we wrap up our enlightening exchange with Dr. Oord, we delve into the personal and institutional ramifications of challenging established church doctrines. Dr. Oord openly recounts the trials faced within his denomination and the vibrant discussions and resources springing from the Center for Open Relational Theology. This dialogue extends an invitation to listeners grappling with their faith, offering a fresh perspective on connecting with the divine and reimagining the possibilities of a love-centered theology. Wine: 2019 Domaine Voarick Mercurey Links: ThomasJayOord.com Center for Open and Relational Theology: c4ort.com Book: The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence…

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Questioning Conventional Living (with Jef Caine) 1:10:28

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of Cabernet and Pray, where a glass of wine meets deep conversations. In the spotlight this time is Jef Caine, an intriguing personality who's journeyed from the confinements of traditional Christianity to the liberating realms of spirituality and non-materialism. Jef, living in a van and embracing veganism, shares his fascinating insights, from questioning beliefs and Christianity's impact on his life to his recent decision to abstain from alcohol. Our conversation with Jef is a candid exploration of personal beliefs, transformation, and self-discovery. We navigate through the complexities of life, tackling issues like living on-the-move in a van, practicing veganism, and reconciling with the aftermath of a divorce. Not shying away from humor, we also indulge in some light-hearted banter around amusing communion stories. It's a journey worth embarking on, one that promises a newfound appreciation for authentic living and the courage to question established norms. As we approach the culmination of our chat with Jef, we delve deeper into the connection between extreme lifestyle choices, veganism, and Christianity. Jef's viewpoints provide an engaging outlook on the complexities of these aspects. We also take a moment to reflect on the current state of Christianity and the church in America today. So, pour yourself a glass of your favorite wine, and join us in this enriching conversation that promises to challenge, amuse, and inspire. Wine: 2019 History Red Blend https://www.jefcaine.com…

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Sipping on Social Issues and Spirituality (with Danielle Strickland) 1:21:23

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Pour yourself a glass, and prepare to savor an enticing blend of faith, creativity, and life's joys with a hint of pressing social issues. We were thrilled to invite the remarkable Danielle Strickland to our table, an author, speaker, and self-proclaimed 'Ambassador of Fun.' With her latest book, "The Other Side of Hope," and podcast, "The Right Side Up," setting the backdrop, we swirled around the complexities of wine tasting, explored the concept of being "born again," and pondered the sober curious movement. As we let these conversations breathe, we delved deeper into empowering women to find their voices and the role of the church in protecting its members. An intriguing pour from Danielle's life was her unique project called Imby, a tiny home movement shaking up the suburban monotony. As we neared the bottom of the glass, we touched on the harsh reality of human trafficking and our responsibility to prevent it. We rounded off our chat with a toast to the LGBTQ+ community and the importance of inclusion within the church. And of course, no gathering is complete without a little fun, as we danced around the topic of sound effects in podcasting with Daniel. So join us for this enriching dialogue, as we explore faith, creativity, and life's joys, one sip at a time. Cheers! Links: DanielleStrickland.com BoundlessEnterprise.org The Other Side of Hope…

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Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies (with David Gushee) 1:23:22

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Pour a glass of wine and pull up a chair. Our latest conversation with esteemed guest, Dr. David P. Gushee, carries us through a fascinating journey into the intersections of faith, ethics, and politics. A seasoned scholar, Dr. Gushee unpacks the implications of Christian authority within the political landscape while interrogating how power dynamics play out in both religious and political spheres. As a distinguished professor of Christian ethics and author of 28 books, he invokes us to think deeper about our own political engagement. Our discussion takes a powerful turn as we grapple with recent events in Israel, the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and the potential future of the two-state solution. While we swirl our wines, we reflect on the church's position in supporting the LGBTQ+ community and our collective responsibility in standing against targeting and demagoguery. We dive into the critical issues at play, challenging our listeners to engage in meaningful conversations about power, authority, and the role of the church in these tumultuous times. As we raise our glasses to a final toast, we dwell on the trials and triumphs of defending democracy and the issues plaguing American Christianity today. From confronting the nation's founding racism to discussing the transformative power of writing, our conversation with Dr. Gushee unveils hard truths and offers glimmers of hope. So join us in this enlightening exchange that serves as a reminder of our shared commitment to promoting peace, justice, and equality. Cheers to thought-provoking dialogue and the power of engaging in meaningful conversations! Wines: 2019 McManis Pinot Grigio 2019 Longhand Cabernet Sauvignon Links: Defending Democracy From It's Christian Enemies www.davidpgushee.com www.facebook.com/dpgushee…

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Rethinking Love and Grief (with Jonathan Foster) 1:13:54

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Can love be redefined through understanding mimetic theory? Find out as we chat with Jonathan Foster, a multi-faceted father, husband, writer, and former church planter. He shares his unique insights on mimetic theory and how it can shape our approach of understanding culture and religion. We dive into the enticing world of open and relational theology, exploring its impact on the complexities of human life and relationships. Jonathan isn't your average theologian; he's got an intriguing blend of life experiences that make this chat as light-hearted as it is profound. As we share a few laughs over his love for Mexican food and his move from Arizona to Kansas City, the conversation takes a deeper turn with Jonathan's personal journey of loss and grief. Listen as he bravely delves into the emotional world of writing a book about his personal experiences, showing us that even in the face of tragedy, there is room for growth and understanding. From exploring Girard's theory of scapegoating to challenging the traditional concepts of omnipotence in Christianity, this episode promises a thought-provoking journey. Understand the workings of mimetic theory, decode the complexities of human relationships, and redefine your perception of love as Jonathan sheds light on these intricate subjects. Tune in to expand your knowledge and get a fresh perspective on how shared experiences can pave the way for theological shifts. Be a part of this enlightening conversation, and let the exploration begin! Links: Indigo: The Color of Grief www.jonathanfosteronline.com…

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On the Edge of the Inside 51:16

2 years51:16

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Ready to set sail on a unique journey through the world of Christianity, wine, and pirates? We promise you'll gain a fresh perspective on faith as we uncork a delectable 2015 Chateau Monteil D’Arsac Bordeaux blend, discuss the creation of pirates, and delve into the theology of being on the edge of the inside. This unconventional voyage is sure to provide an eye-opening examination of church practices and their modern relevance. Together, we'll navigate the treacherous waters of 17th-century pirate history, revealing how privateers, by losing their commissions, were pushed towards piracy. This exploration allows us to understand better the changing landscape in Christianity today. We explore Richard Rohr's concept of on the edge of the inside, which has profound implications for how we view Christianity and its institutions today. What if truth is found not at the center, but the edges of our groups and beliefs? This idea serves as a compass guiding us on our journey through the complexities of Christian identity. Inspired by Jesus' teachings, we shed light on the emergence of two distinct camps within the Christian identity - the institutional church and the deconstructing community. Here on the edge of the inside, we explore a space that may not be easy but is profoundly meaningful, holding the potential for a more inclusive, empathetic, and diverse Christian community. So grab your glass and join us for an enlightening expedition.…

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Uncorking Passion (with Clayton Steffen) 48:06

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Ever wonder how a wine hobby could transform into a thriving business? My conversation with Clayton Steffen uncovers his intriguing journey into the wine world, the joy he finds in introducing others to new varieties, and the challenges he faces in this industry. We also walk you through our collective journey of tasting a variety of exquisite wines at a recent industry event. We then transition into the heart and soul of running a wine bar. Clayton's insights paint a vivid picture of the importance of creating a 'third place' - a safe, welcoming environment where community thrives and friendships bloom. Seamlessly blending wine with faith and community, our discussion travels to Montalcino in Tuscany, unraveling hidden gems in the world of wine. It's not just about the taste, but also the experience that comes with every sip. Finally, we explore the excitement and challenges of planning wine tastings and the thrill that comes with introducing new varietals to wine lovers. Clayton gears up to explore the Columbia Valley in Washington next, eager to share his new experiences with his patrons. Whether you're a casual drinker or a connoisseur, join us in this riveting discussion, sip by sip, uncorking the passion, and dedication it takes to make it in the wine industry.…

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Moving Beyond the Medium (with Mike Goldsworthy) 1:29:46

2 years1:29:46

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Picture this; you're leading a megachurch and suddenly, you decide to make a shift. A shift from preaching to coaching, from the pulpit to facilitating high-capacity leaders. This is the intriguing journey of Mike Goldsworthy, our guest for this episode and the founder of Live Contrarian. Mike shares his experiences, from being a lead pastor to transitioning into an executive coach and facilitator. It's not just about change but a reshaping of identity and relationships. As we reminisce about our first meeting and chat about Mike's current passions, we also consider the art of sermonizing and the AI-driven world we live in. What does the transition from a church ministry to a different medium do to your faith? With Mike, we explore this fascinating question, examining the impact on his relationship with the church and his authenticity. We discuss the guilt associated with not attending church regularly and the nature of faith evolution. We'll also delve into the language of deconstruction within faith, a topic often seen as destructive. We promise; this isn't your typical faith discussion. Mike's unique perspective on faith, drawn from his personal journey, offers fresh insights into the nature of faith expansion, growth, maturing, and evolution. As we share a communal wine tasting experience, brace yourself for an enlightening reflection on the role of communal experience in our relationship with wine. Mike then introduces us to the Post-Evangelical Collective that he co-founded, a community providing a sense of belonging for pastors who feel they no longer fit within Evangelicalism. We wrap up the episode by exploring the financial models that work within the post-evangelical space. Mike's story is about moving beyond boundaries and forging a new path. Wines: 2020 Torial Red Wine Blend 2021 Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon Links: https://www.mikegoldsworthy.com https://www.postevangelicalcollective.org…

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God, Grapes, and Grit (with Chad Preston) 1:03:44

2 years1:03:44

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Ever been curious about the fascinating world of winemaking? Then strap in for an inspiring journey with Chad Preston, the founder of Birds and Barrels Vineyards and partner in Cochise Wine Company. From being a wine enthusiast during his college days to now standing at the helm of a flourishing vineyard in Wilcox, Chad's story is one of passion, faith, and resilience. Tune in as we traverse the twists and turns of Chad's winemaking journey, his brave forays into new grape varieties, and the hard-earned lessons of risk-taking. Alongside the intoxicating aroma of crushed grapes and wine barrels, there's another guiding force in Chad's life: his deep-rooted Christian faith. With the vineyard as his pulpit, Chad shares how his faith shapes his approach to winemaking and life in general. He views himself as a tool in God's toolbox, serving His divine plans in his own humble way. From his early days in youth ministry to his current role in the wine industry, Chad's faith journey is a testament to the power of belief, prayer, and listening for God's voice. Wrapping up our conversation, we celebrate the courageous endeavors of Chad and his wife, Monica, as they continue to raise the bar of Arizona's wine industry. Reflecting on his journey, Chad emphasizes the importance of community, patience, and gratitude. This episode is a hearty toast to Chad's accomplishments and his unwavering faith. So, fill up your glass and immerse yourself in this riveting conversation about wine, faith, resilience, and the amazing journey of a hobbyist winemaker turned industry influencer. https://birdsandbarrels.com/…

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Start With the Feet, Not the Head (with Tyler Johnson) 1:07:04

2 years1:07:04

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Click here to watch the episode on video. In this episode, I talk with my friend Tyler Johnson. Until recently, Tyler was the Lead Pastor of a ten-congregation multisite church. He recently decided to step away from that and is now a spiritual and social entrepreneur entering into the marketplace. He's a man of many convictions and recently started a business called “The Human Element.” We take sips of a 2021 Argyle Nusshaus Riesling and a 2019 Il Farneto - Rosso ‘Giandon’ as we converse about baseball, entrepreneurship, and our favorite wines. The discussion gets deep as we explore Tyler’s transition from leading a congregation to leading in the entrepreneurial world. He shares his journey, challenges, and lessons learned about human capital in the business landscape. Tyler's business, the Human Element, is a testament to the belief in human beings as the most potent form of capital. We explore his unique approach to leadership that emphasizes empathy, relational intelligence, and emotional intelligence. Tyler drops an incredible analogy of a chef at a restaurant to what it can often feel like when leading in a church. Our conversation with Tyler culminates with exploring unity and diversity within Christianity, and how elements like wine, food, and ambiance can reconcile religious divides. We discuss his relationship-building strategy to bridge these divides and the role of social trust in this process. As we wrap up, we delve into seeing the world through Jesus's eyes and how prioritizing the marginalized can unlock ultimate reality. So, lean in, listen up, and join us for an enlightening episode filled with thoughtful insights, wine, and baseball. Wines: 2021 Argyle Nusshaus Riesling 2019 Il Farneto - Rosso ‘Giandon’…

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Great Vintages and Bad Winemakers 39:19

2 years39:19

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Click here to watch the episode on video. Get ready to uncork your understanding! This week on Cabernet and Pray, we're swirling together two unlikely passions - Christianity and wine. We'll be sipping on a 2017 Sokol Blosser Big Tree Block Pinot Noir and unraveling the wisdom of Richard Bohr as we savor the intricate connection between God, wine, and life. Life, much like winemaking, is full of unpredictable and challenging vintages. Sometimes, we try to make the best of a less-than-ideal harvest. But, what if we could become masters at turning those tart grapes into a complex and delightful wine? Just as a winemaker works with the given conditions to create something extraordinary, we too can harness our faith and resilience to thrive amid adversity. As we navigate through uncertain seasons, let's turn to Paul's words in 2 Corinthians 4 and experience anew the transformative power hidden in our fragility. Finally, let's raise a toast to an anti-fragile faith. It's not about maintaining a perfect, unbroken exterior but about growing stronger from the breaks and cracks. With their raw and unorthodox faith, the early Christians knew this all too well. They faced trials and challenges head-on, growing stronger from each experience. As we venture deeper into the world of wine and Christianity, let's learn to celebrate life's joys and struggles, knowing that God's love is steadfast in every season. Cheers to you, and let's savor this fascinating journey together!…

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