Curious About Recovery - Diving Into Eating Disorders podcast

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EP51_Breaking the Silence: A Journey of Mental Health, Recovery & Hope with Erica Meline (Personal Story) 51:02

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Erica Meline is a mental health advocate and public speaker. Diagnosed with an eating disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, and OCD, Erica has spent much of her life feeling like she was broken. Following a suicide attempt in 2022, Erica made the decision to turn her life around and set out on a long journey to recovery. Though the journey is far from over, Erica has been able to finally reach a point in her life where hope has returned, and she now tries to instill that hope in others. Today, Erica aims to help people with struggles similar to her own by sharing her story. She has spoken publicly about her mental health journey at middle schools and high schools, as well as podcasts. Additionally, Erica has begun serving on the junior board for the Starting Point of New Jersey, a nonprofit education and referral resource for mental health. For Erica, though, advocacy is all about incorporating mental health awareness into her everyday life by being open about her struggles and encouraging others to do the same without shame. Through her vulnerability and advocacy, Erica’s main goals are to de-stigmatize mental health, increase accessibility to mental health education, and show people that they are never alone. Resources: https://startingpoint.org/ https://www.eatingdisorderfoundation.org/ 1. LifeLine South Africa National Counseling Line: 0861 322 322 Website: lifelinesa.co.za 2. South African Depression and Anxiety Group (SADAG) Helpline: 0800 567 567 Website: sadag.org 3. Mental Health Information Centre of Southern Africa Website: mentalhealthsa.org.za 4. HEAL SA Focuses on mental health support, particularly for Black women and youth, offering individual services and support groups. Website: heal-sa.org.za 5. National Department of Health – Mental Health Information Mental Health Information Line: 0800 567 567 Website: health.gov.za/mental-health/ 6. NPOwer Mental Health Support Helpline: 0800 515 515 Website: npowersa.org 7. Eating & Body Image Helplines Stop Gender Violence Helpline: 0800 150 150 South African Federation For Mental Health Helpline: 011 781 1852 Website: findahelpline.com…

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EP50_Expect the Miracle with Author and Trauma Survivor, Alle C. Hall, (Personal Story) 53:13

7 weeks53:13

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In this episode I speak with author and recovery warrior, Alle C. Hall who identifies as a person in recovery for 35 years from codependency, bulimia, alcoholism, and sexual anorexia. Her lived experience is shared through her work as an author, speaker, and writing instructor who focuses on the joy and creativity resulting from trauma recovery. Alle’s debut novel, As Far as You Can Go Before You Have to Come Back, has been honoured fifteen times; including 1st place in The National League of American Pen Women’s Mary Kennedy Eastham Prize for an excerpt, and most recently: finalist for The Nancy Pearl Book Award (winner announced 9/21/24). Alle (pronounced “alley”) started her external, as well as internal journey when in 1988, with a whopping $1,000 and one year of Japanese language study crammed into three months—though no housing or job lined up—Alle moved herself to Tokyo. She there for three years, teaching English and writing for Tokyo City Life News . Her first assignment was to cover the capitol’s Tai chi scene. She backpacked through Hong Kong, The Philippines, Indonesia, and Thailand, where she immersed herself in Tai chi on Koh Phangan, the island that plays a critical role in As Far as You Can Go Before You Have to Come Back. With Tai chi enriching her recovery, Alle was able to face the abuse that characterised her childhood: physical, emotional, spiritual, intellectual, and sexual. Returning Stateside, Alle wrote for The Seattle Times , Seattle Weekly , and was a contributing writer at The Stranger . Her short stories and essays appeared in journals including Dale Peck’s Evergreen Review, Tupelo Quarterly, New World Writing, Litro , Creative Nonfiction, and Another Chicago . She continues to live in Seattle with her husband and their two shining sons, with some subset of whom she has traveled to Japan, Bali, Vietnam, Laos, Taiwan, and Shanghai. About As Far as You Can Go Before You Have to Come Back Alle’s fiction debut, As Far as You Can Go Before You Have to Come Back (Black Rose Writing, March, 2023) is a-girl-and-her-backpack story with 12-Step recovery framed as a Tai chi practice: Carlie is an incest survivor. As a teen, she steals ten thousand dollars and runs away to Asia. Falling in with an international crew of tai chi-practicing backpackers, Carlie uses a Tai chi her practice to find the self-respect stripped from her as a child and the healthy sexuality she desires. Purchase her book here: https://www.amazon.com/Far-Before-Have-Come-Back/dp/1685131476…

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EP49_Educational Psychologist, Lucy Hathorn Shares her Anorexia Lived Experience and Passion for ED Advocacy 35:18

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Today I speak to fellow South African, Educational Psychologist and Eating Disorder Advocate, Lucy Hathorn. Lucy shares with us her personal experience with anorexia and neurodivergence, and her mission in mental health advocacy. Lucy is passionate about helping others navigate recovery, particularly addressing eating disorders in South Africa, where they are often overlooked and runs a successful Instagram account (@lovelucyclaire) to raise awareness about eating disorders and connect with those in recovery. In this episode Lucy speaks to us about the impact of a parent's relationship with food and how this can unknowingly significantly impact children's perceptions of food and their bodies as diet culture deeply affects generations, with parents often unaware of their disordered eating behaviours. She urges parents to model a positive relationship with food and create a sense of safety for their children around eating as a preventative measure for the onset of disordered eating. Lucy acknowledges that addressing disordered eating in children is complex, as it involves family systems. Effective support includes developing coping skills in children, providing parental guidance, and addressing systemic family dynamics. Family therapy and parental education are also critical tools. Lucy also highlights the strong link between eating disorders and neurodivergence, particularly in girls and women with ADHD or autism. Girls often mask neurodivergent tendencies, and food becomes a coping mechanism. Emerging global practices include mandatory neurodivergence screenings for eating disorder patients. Key Takeaways: - Eating disorders require a holistic approach, considering biopsychosocial factors. - Greater research and awareness are needed on neurocognitive links to eating disorders. - Advocates for early intervention to reduce the prevalence of these issues. You can follow Lucy on her Instagram account: @lovelucyclaire or contact her at So sorry for the delay 🌸. You can also provide my email address Lucy.edpsychologist@gmail.com to get in touch.…

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EP48_Treating Neurodivergence and Eating Disorders Together with Angel Sipp, LISW-S (Expert) 57:19

21 weeks57:19

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In this episode, we sit down with Angel Sipp , a licensed independent social worker and therapist who specializes in eating disorders, ADHD, autism, and body image . With personal experience as a neurodivergent individual, Angel brings a unique perspective to her work at Keller Counseling and Associates in Columbus, Ohio. We explore the complex relationship between ADHD and eating disorders , discussing the roles of executive functioning challenges , masking , shame , and external validation . Angel shares her insights on how movement and sensory stimulation can both help and hinder recovery, especially in neurodivergent individuals, and advocates for personalized, holistic approaches in treatment. If you’re interested in understanding how neurodivergence and eating disorders overlap, and how to create supportive, compassionate treatment plans, this conversation is a must-listen. Key Takeaways : The importance of holistic treatment for ADHD and eating disorders. Understanding how shame and guilt impact neurodivergent individuals. Why movement and sensory regulation are crucial in managing ADHD and eating disorders. Building trust and personalising treatment to support long-term recovery. Tune in to learn how Angel’s personal experiences with ADHD inform her work and how we can better support neurodivergent individuals on their journey to recovery. Links : Follow Angel Sipp’s work at Keller Counseling and Associates: https://kellercounseling.org/angel-bio…

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EP47_My anger, denial, and sadness was actually grief. Understanding when you might be grieving your old eating disorder self. (Solo) 39:04

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In this episode, we dive into the complex emotions and processes that come with recovering from an eating disorder, focusing on the grieving stages that often surface during this journey. Key Topics: Understanding Grief in Recovery : We explore how the stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance) play a significant role in the recovery process. Recognising these emotions as normal helps create space for healing. The Importance of External Support : External support is essential when dealing with overwhelming emotions. We discuss how reaching out to others and showing self-compassion can ease the recovery journey. Body Grief : Physical changes during recovery can be distressing. We discuss grieving the loss of body rigidity and how it’s a necessary step to finding peace with your new body. Finding Healthy Coping Mechanisms : Replacing disordered behaviors with healthier coping strategies is crucial. From journaling to yoga and creative outlets, we discuss different ways to process emotions without resorting to harmful behaviours. Embracing Freedom and Imperfection : The ultimate goal in recovery is acceptance, both of imperfections and of a new, more authentic relationship with your body and soul. We reflect on the peace and freedom that come with this acceptance. Listen for Insights On: The stages of grief in eating disorder recovery How to cope with the emotional challenges of recovery Finding new comfort in healthier habits and support systems The emotional process of body changes and acceptance Shifting focus from body perfection to soul-centered freedom Follow & Connect: Instagram: @curiousaboutrecovery – Stay updated on upcoming episodes and explore past content. Instagram: @kirstenhunneyball – Find inspiration for your recovery journey. If this episode resonated with you, please share it with others who might benefit. We'd love to hear your thoughts, so feel free to reach out with questions or suggestions for future episodes!…

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EP46_Nourishing the Inner Landscape: Parts work for eating disorders with Celia Clark (Expert) 49:38

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Today, I explore the Internal Family Systems (IFS) framework and its profound impact on healing from eating disorders with IFS Therapist, Celia Clark. IFS sees individuals as composed of various parts or sub-personalities, each with its own thoughts, beliefs, and behaviours. We discuss how these parts develop early in life, influenced by interactions with caregivers. Understanding when certain parts are activated and addressing their underlying needs is crucial. We highlight four core parts involved in eating disorders: restriction, binge eating, purging, and body checking, each serving a distinct role as well as the concept of the Internal Loving Parent (ILP), a compassionate and wise aspect within us. Connecting with the ILP fosters self-compassion and creates a safe space for exploration and healing. Nurturing a compassionate relationship with oneself is vital, acknowledging inner parts that yearn for connection. Traditional treatments often overlook relational wounds; true healing comes from fostering internal connections. IFS offers a transformative framework for understanding and healing from eating disorders. By fostering self-awareness, compassion, and connection with inner wisdom, individuals embark on a journey of recovery. Join us in recognising and nurturing the profound connections within ourselves for a holistic approach to healing from within. Find Celia and her work at https://www.celiaclark.online/…

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EP45_Therapeutic Movement as a Tool for Emotional Processing with Lauren Elise Peterson, MS, BC-DMT (Expert) 57:31

1 year57:31

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In this episode, Lauren Elise Peterson, a board certified dance/movement therapist and body image coach, joins the conversation to explore the transformative power of movement in healing and recovery, particularly for individuals struggling with eating disorders. Lauren has been passionate about eating disorder and trauma recovery for over 20 years and loves to help people feel better in their own skin through using recovery-friendly movement practices. This epsiode emphasizes the importance of listening to the body as a means of understanding and processing emotions, highlighting the bottom-up approach in therapy. The conversation delves into Polyvagal Theory and the significance of sensory inputs in cultivating a sense of safety within one's body, insights into the complexities of using movement as a tool for emotional processing, exploring bodily experiences without judgment, and practical insights into initiating a healthy relationship with movement. Lauren emphasizes the importance of patience and self-compassion in this journey towards embodied practices. Listeners are invited to connect with Lauren Elise Peterson via her website and social media channels to explore her work further and stay updated on her upcoming projects, including her forthcoming book on using movement to heal the relationship with one's body. If you'd like to stay in touch with Lauren on social media, she's on Instagram and TikTok at @laurenelisepeterson and Facebook as Lauren Elise Peterson. Lauren's website is www.laurenelisepeterson.com and you're welcome to join her email list here to stay tuned about her upcoming events and book! https://lauren-higgins.us4.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=14fd23a0d6af15e61c30fb380&id=4528c272b6…

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EP44_Mindful Awareness in Body-oriented Therapy (MABT) with Cynthia Price, Ph. D., M.A., LMT (Expert) 48:20

1 year48:20

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In this episode I interview Cynthia Price, the Senior Director of the Center for Mindful Body Awareness (CMBT) and a leading researcher in the field of Mindful Awareness in Body-oriented Therapy (MABT). The discussion revolves around MABT, its applications, and its potential benefits, particularly in the context of disordered eating. The first part of the podcast covers the basics of MABT, highlighting its emphasis on interoceptive awareness, body connection, and sustained attention to internal experiences. Cynthia explains the unique aspects of MABT, distinguishing it from other mindfulness approaches and highlighting its focus on integrating physiological and sensory processing. The conversation then delves deeper into personal practices and experiences related to MABT. Cynthia shares her own practices, such as yoga and the MABT practice on herself, emphasizing the importance of both formal and informal ways to check in with the body. I also share my experience with a daily pose, Tadasana, and how it has increased my awareness of the body's response to emotional states. The discussion concludes with insights into the potential application of MABT in the context of disordered eating, with a focus on developing awareness and embodiment. Cynthia highlights the need for more research in this area and encourages individuals to explore this approach as a means of fostering a positive connection with their bodies. You can find Cynthia on the CMBT website: https://www.cmbaware.org/…

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EP43_Sex, Sexuality, and Intimacy and their Roles in Eating Disorder Recovery with Nicole M. D’Aoust (Expert) 59:48

1 year59:48

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In this episode, licensed therapist Nicole M. D'Aoust, AMFT shares her expertise at the intersection of eating disorders and sexuality. With an M.A. in Clinical Psychology, emphasizing Marriage and Family Therapy, Nicole draws on her diverse experience, including interning at the VA with women veterans who've faced sexual trauma. We explore the intricate web of influences on sexuality, touching on media, medical, and moral factors. She discusses the concept of pleasure rituals, emphasizing the need to break sex stigma and expand our understanding of sexuality beyond mere behavior. The episode delves into four distinct types of intimacy and the pillars shaping our sexual experiences. Nicole sheds light on the role of attachment in sexual health, drawing from her work with sexual trauma survivors at the VA. Beyond the professional realm, Nicole shares her passion for equine therapy and highlights the natural connection between eating and sexuality. As a firm believer in everyone's potential for recovery from eating disorders, Nicole emphasizes the importance of therapeutic bonds that inspire self-trust and self-confidence. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation that navigates the complexities of eating disorders and sexuality, offering a holistic perspective on mental and sexual well-being. You can find Nicole on her website www.soulfullcollective.org or email her nicolemdaoust@gmail.com…

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EP42_The Importance of Community in Eating Disorder Recovery with Jessie Huebner, LMHC, CEDS-C (Expert) 41:31

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Today I chat to Jessie Huebner about the importance of collaboration in Eating Disorder Recovery. Eating disorders are complex illnesses that need a holistic approach. Often we need an entire team of professionals working together to help those who suffer with this illness. This means that often a recovery journey can involve people like dieticians, coaches, therapists, psychiatrists, spiritual healers, family counsellors, doctors, and more. We also know that eating disorders are no “one-size-fits-all” matter, and the world of ED recovery is constantly evolving. This is why it’s important for professionals to work together and to learn from each other along the way. In today’s episode I chat to Jessie Huebner, LMHC, LPC, CEDS-C, QS, CEO/founder of Restored Purpose Counseling Services, about topics such as her experience in different levels of care, a holistic approach to ED recovery, Community in EDs, what healing looks like for different clients, treating the whole person, creating a group practice specific to treating EDs, family partnerships with clients of an ED, collaborating with other professionals, HAES approaches to recovery, and her involvement with the International Association for Eating Disorder Professionals (IAEDP). Jessie also provides business coaching for clinicians growing their private practices and looking to scale beyond solo practice. You can find Jessie at www.jessiehuebner.com Or on Instagram as @jess_heubner…

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EP41_Accessible , Weight Inclusive & Affirming Eating Disorder Therapy with Emily Andersen, LMFT (Expert) 1:14:37

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Too many people avoid seeking medical or therapeutic help because of existing weight stigma in the health industry. This means thousands of people don’t get the help that they need for very real, and even life-threatening illnesses like an eating disorder. In today’s episode I speak to Emily Andersen, Marriage and Family Therapist from PsychED Recovery, who serves as a holistic and healthy model of what it is like to be a provider in a larger body. Emily’s mission is to create a safe, inclusive, accessible space for all clients of all identities and body types to heal from the underlying causes of their eating disorder. Her goal is to empower clients to embrace their bodies and radically and unapologetically take up space in the world. Within that same sentiment, she aspires to model for her clients that recovery is possible through her own lived experience as someone who has overcome their eating disorder in a larger body and she teaches her clients how to advocate for themselves with medical professionals in a world of weight stigma, fat bias, and diet culture. Today we explore Emily’s personal experience and professional insight into the world of disordered eating and advocacy for inclusive treatment for all. You can find her at www.psyched-recovery.com or on Instagram at @psyched.recovery #weightstigma #inclusivity #psychoeducation #fatbias #fatphobia #eatingdisorder #recoverypodcast #antidiet #weightinclusive #diversity #podcast…

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EP40_Star Wars, Body Grief, and Dudes in Recovery with Aaron Flores, RDN (Expert) 47:20

1 year47:20

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Navigating a changing body, whether it’s through eating disorder recovery or for any other reason, can be really challenging. Learning to trust your body is a process which often comes with trial and error, moments of joy, and grief. Coming back home to your body includes building relationship to it, which doesn’t always feel easy. In fact diet culture tells us we can’t trust our bodies! But this is not how we were born. We were born with the intuitive ability to trust our bodies, yet conditioning from systemic influences or personal experiences can lead you to “unlearn” how to do this effectively. In this episode, I speak to Aaron Flores about learning to trust the body, the process of going through body grief, and how one might use metaphors (like using the story of Star Wars) to grasp complex ideas in recovery from disordered eating. Aaron is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist and Certified Body Trust® provider with a private practice in Calabasas, CA. Aaron uses Intuitive Eating, Health at Every Size®, and Body Trust® as the framework to help individuals develop a more compassionate, non-judgmental approach to food and their body. In addition to his individual work with clients, he is also a podcaster. His two shows are Men Unscripted and, Dietitians Unplugged . We also touch on the experience of being a person who identifies as male in recovery, and Aaron’s safe space for men to anonymously share their body stories on his podcast, Men Unscripted Aaron will also be speaking at Project HEAL and EDRD Pro’s event called “InformED” h ttps://www.theprojectheal.org/2023-informed-forum which is a virtual event that will be held on October 20th 2023 at 10:30am - 4pm ET on ‘The Medical Landscape: Ozempic and the Renewed Rise of “Thin at Any Cost”’ Find Aaron here: @aaronfloresrdn…

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EP39_Why We Need to Consider Mind-Body Interventions for Sustainable Eating Disorder Treatment 1:12:36

1 year1:12:36

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In this episode, we delve into the complexities of eating disorders and the crucial role of understanding the body-brain connection in the recovery process. We emphasize why this understanding is essential for both professionals and individuals struggling with eating disorders. Eating disorders can be challenging to overcome due to their multifaceted nature. They not only affect one's relationship with food but also disrupt the integration of self, leading to distorted self-image. Exploring the neurobiology of eating disorders, including the effects of malnutrition, is crucial in developing more effective treatment approaches. The brain's ability to change and adapt, known as neuroplasticity, plays a vital role in recovery. We look at various mind-body interventions which involve working with the brain and nervous system to improve health or treat conditions. We look at techniques like mindfulness, EMDR, The Feldenkrais Method, and yoga which can aid in recovery by reducing stress, improving emotional regulation, enhancing body image, addressing trauma-related aspects of eating disorders, promote relaxation, reduce stress hormones, and positively affect brain function. This episode highlights the significance of considering both the neurobiological and psychological aspects of eating disorders and offers insights into various interventions that can support individuals on their journey to recovery. Understanding the intricate relationship between the brain and disordered eating behaviors is essential for more effective treatment approaches and reducing the stigma associated with eating disorders. Disclaimer: This episode does not aim to diagnose, cure, or treat eating disorders or any mental health condition. Please seek professional help if you are struggling.…

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EP38_Nutrition & Body Image Counselling: Courtney Vickery's Story (Expert + Personal) 35:27

1 year35:27

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Dietitian, Intuitive Eating Counselor, Food Therapist, and Body Image Coach living in a small, rural town in Georgia. Today she shares her journey, and why she chose to work in the field of nutrition and body image. We highlight the prevalence of disordered eating numbers in college students. You can find a study done by NEDA in 2013 here: https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/sites/default/files/CollegeSurvey/CollegiateSurveyProject.pdf We also talk about some of the challenges Courtney faced in her own food and body wellness journey, and the tools she used to support her along the way. We touch on the importance of raising anti-diet kids and discuss her other passion, design and being a creative. On top of her business, Vickery Wellness (A nutrition private practice based out of Athens, GA specializing in Intuitive Eating and eating disorder recovery through a non-diet, weight-inclusive approach.) she also runs a business called Declet Designs, aimed at helping weight inclusive private practices get more clients through branding, web design, SEO, and more. Courtney is currently seeing clients virtually throughout Georgia, New York, Vermont, Connecticut, Utah, Washington, Colorado, California. Vickery Wellness is a welcoming and inclusive space for all people regardless of their race, ethnicity, age, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or national origin. You can find her at www.vickerywellness.com or https://decletdesigns.com/ Follow her on Instagram at @vickerywellness or @decletdesigns If you have a story (personal or professional) to share, or interesting insights into disordered eating treatment modalities, research or information, please contact me to apply as a guest on the show! @curiousaboutrecovery or @kirstenhuneyball…

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EP37_I Guess Deep Down, I Had Hope - An Anorexia Recovery Journey with Charlotte (A Personal Story) 1:15:03

2 years1:15:03

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Today I speak with Charlotte Cummings, who currently works as a Recovery Coach at Monte Nido - which you can find out more about here: https://www.montenido.com/ She touches on her personal story through anorexia, the traumatic experiences she endured in treatment, and her Borderline Personality Disorder diagnosis. We talk about the importance of catching an eating disorder early, and what parents need to be aware of - checking in to see whether they are unknowingly encouraging disordered eating behaviour. We discuss the feelings of guilt that come up when trying to recover from anorexia and speak about her experience with various treatment modalities and tools that she has found useful in her anorexia recovery, including music, creative expression, pets, and EMDR, and her experience as a recovery coach in a treatment centre, seeing how her journey has equipped her with the ability to help others. We end off with some interesting insights into the gaps Charlotte has noticed within the treatment process, which are incredible concepts for professionals to reflect on. You can follow Charlotte and her recovery journey on Instagram: @char_lives44 https://www.instagram.com/char_lives44/ If you have a recovery story you would like to share, please get in touch with me via my website: www.kirstenhunneyball.co.za OR via my Instagram @kirstenhunneyball or @curiousaboutrecovery https://www.instagram.com/kirstenhunneyball/ https://www.instagram.com/curiousaboutrecovery/ PS If you struggle with Gut Health Issues and are looking for a really great Probiotic, consider Rawbiotics - a brand I have been using for 6 years! Get your products here: https://www.rawbiotics.co.za/?sca_ref=3947322.Xy5xg1deW2…

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