It’s about the things we obsess over in our free time: TV and movies, music and celebrities, internet and memes, and the people who make it. No topic is too big or small. And nothing’s off limits. The Sam Sanders Show from KCRW – your weekly destination for all things fun. Sam Sanders is an award-winning podcast and radio host. He’s been named best podcast host by both The Ambies and the iHeart Podcast Awards. He was one of the founding hosts of The NPR Politics Podcast and the host who laun ...
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Join host Sam Sanders as he guides you through the biggest pop culture stories, trends, and ideas we can’t stop thinking about. With help from Vulture friends and the occasional celebrity, Into It is answering all of the important questions. What summer blockbusters are worth your time? Do we really know Taylor Swift? What does the future of TV look like? New episodes drop every Tuesday and Friday. From Vulture and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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This is Why Ronny Chieng Believes in America
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Sam Sanders talks with comedian and actor Ronny Chieng to discuss his journey in American comedy, his role in Hulu’s Interior Chinatown, and the complex relationship between identity and humor in Hollywood. As they delve into the highs and lows of political satire, Ronny shares his unique global perspective, shaped by years spent across multiple co…
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Inside 2024’s Tech Revolution with Journalists Taylor Lorenz & Elise Hu
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In this episode, we dive into the biggest tech stories of 2024, exploring how technology reshaped culture in surprising ways. From Hollywood to social media, AI is transforming creative industries, while TikTok continues redefining what it means to be an influencer. We also discuss Elon Musk’s impact on online communication and why social media fee…
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From Indie Videos to Hollywood Hits: Alvarez & Koenig on “English Teacher”
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This week on the show, Sam sits down with Brian Jordan Alvarez and Stephanie Koenig, the creative forces behind the new hit show English Teacher. Created by Alvarez, the show features both him and Koenig as high school teachers in Texas, with each of them also taking on writing roles. But this isn’t your typical sitcom. With razor-sharp writing, En…
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Roy Wood Jr: Finding Comedy in Political Chaos
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Comedian Roy Wood Jr. joins Sam to discuss why he believes comedy is a form of journalism and how humor can help us cope with today’s political chaos. Roy reflects on his time at The Daily Show, his experience hosting CNN’s Have I Got News For You, and the challenge of finding laughter amidst absurdity. Plus, they play a game inspired by Roy’s new …
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Pop Culture Can Help the Climate w/ Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
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Sam sits down with author and marine biologist Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson to explore her inspiring new book, What If We Get It Right?: Visions of Climate Futures. Dr. Johnson offers a refreshing take on the climate crisis, imagining a future shaped by Hollywood, pop culture, poetry, and joy. Together, they discuss how creativity and optimism can h…
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Monét X Change: Drag, Politics, and Opera
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Monét X Change, RuPaul’s Drag Race alum, opera singer, and co-host of Sibling Rivalry, joins The Sam Sanders Show to discuss her journey from church kid to drag queen and how it still influences her work. She talks about DRAG PAC, her political action committee fighting for drag and trans rights, and her new foray into performing R&B. Plus, she pla…
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Sasheer Zamata: Queerness, Witches, and Disney
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We launched two episodes today! Don’t miss our episode with Joel Kim Booster, also in your feed. Sasheer Zamata stops by to chat about her role in the hit Disney+ series "Agatha All Along," queerness in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and how her time working at Disney parks shaped her career. She also sticks around to dive into some unexpected topi…
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Joel Kim Booster: Sex, Wealth, and the Comedy Grind
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Joel Kim Booster dives into the wardrobe choices on "Loot," his on-screen chemistry with Maya Rudolph, and how the show tackles real-world issues like the unhoused crisis. He also talks about the portrayal of wealth on television and his discomfort with glamorizing billionaires. Sign up for Sam’s Newsletter (KCRW.com/SamSanders) to get behind the s…
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We Will Never Recover From What Justin Did to Britney or: the End of 'Into It'
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In our final game of "Into It/Not Into It," comedians Naomi Ekperigin and Andy Beckerman, hosts of the Couples Therapy podcast, put their marriage on the line... for the sake of culture. Sam asks if they're into Michelle Williams' narration of the Britney Spears memoir The Woman in Me (thus completing our Holy Trinity run of Britney-themed episodes…
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Britney Was Always Trying to Tell Us Who She Was
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Britney Spears' memoir The Woman in Me is out today. But we're taking this moment instead to revisit the songs we never stopped listening to — and what she was trying to tell us all along, through the music. Sam talks with writer and critic Maura Johnston about what Britney gave to her body of work, and how her voice and sound — augmented, auto-tun…
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What Britney Reveals, and What George Clooney Wants Resolved
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Britney Spears’ memoir comes out next week, but details are already emerging. From snake-handling to Justin Timberlake (redundant?), Sam is processing it all with Into It’s BFF, comic and writer Jay Jurden. Speaking of problems, the actors still have one: their strike keeps going, and now George Clooney and Tyler Perry are putting on pressure to re…
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It’s Not Just Scorsese. Why Are Movies So Long?
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Long movies have often been associated with prestige, so it makes sense that Killers of the Flower Moon is three hours and 26 minutes. But Avengers: End Game clocking in at more than three hours? Come on. Vanity Fair’s Natalie Jarvey and Sam talk through all the factors skewing movies longer, from bidding wars between streamers that give directors …
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Jada & Will Deserve an Oscar for Their Marriage Performance
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News came out this week that Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith have actually been separated since 2016... and we have so many questions. Did Will ruin his career for a roommate? What was the Red Table Talk for? Who is this family's live-in producer? Traci Thomas, host of The Stacks podcast, and Chelsea Devantez, writer, comedian, and host of Glamor…
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Why Are Celebrities So Bad at PR?
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Whether you’ve filmed your awkward apology video from the comfort of your own kitchen or a corner of your palatial backyard, you can bet Molly McPherson, aka “PR Lady,” will be analyzing it on TikTok. She brings her PR industry bona fides to the world of celebrity scandals, and there’s been a lot for her to talk about lately. She and Sam discuss Li…
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Are Bed Bugs and Katy Perry Out for Blood?
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Bed bugs in Paris? Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom entangled in yet another real estate lawsuit? U2 at The Sphere? Sam wraps up the week in culture with comedians Dylan Adler and Sam Oh. Also, we're bringing back our culturegeist segment at the end of the month. Do you have a thing in the culture that's been haunting you? Tell us about it. Record a sh…
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Tech Bros Laid the Foundation, But Women Built Social Media
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The story of social media has usually been told from the perspective of tech bros, set to a soundtrack by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. Washington Post columnist Taylor Lorenz argues in her new book, Extremely Online, that the real protagonists of the story are actually the users, who figured out what these platforms were best at before the people…
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The Writers' Strike Is Over; What Does Hollywood Do Now?
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After a contentious five months, the writers' strike is officially over. What does that actually mean for the writers themselves, the studios, and the future of TV and film? Sam digs into the aftermath with Vulture editor Josef Adalian and TV critic Kathryn VanArendonk, including the wins for the WGA and the smaller post-Peak TV market its members …
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Hip-Hop Is 50 and It’s Having a Midlife Crisis
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So much of the coverage of hip-hop’s 50th birthday has been fawning. Congratulatory. Devoid of meaningful critique. All that despite the fact that the art form has been soaked through with misogyny and homophobia from day one. So how do you celebrate hip-hop’s accomplishments while asking it to do better? Sam talks to journalist Kiana Fitzgerald, a…
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Hasan Minhaj’s Broken Truths, and Taylor Swift’s Broken Google
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Comedian Hasan Minhaj admitted to making up biographical stories involving racism and Islamophobia in his standup specials. Sam asks our BFF, comedian Jay Jurden, what the line is between comedic embellishment and lying, and how the revelations will affect other marginalized performers. Also this week, will one more teacup ride stem Disney’s stream…
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How to Game the Billboard Hot 100
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Is it just us or has the Billboard Hot 100 felt... weird this year? It's the same chart that's seen Doja Cat's "Paint the Town Red" hit No. 1 — the first rap song to rise to the top spot in more than a year — as well as Oliver Anthony Music's controversial "Rich Men North of Richmond" and a remix of an old song by The Weeknd. Is the Billboard Hot 1…
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The Backlash to Drew Barrymore
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This week, Drew Barrymore announced her daytime TV talk show would return despite the ongoing Hollywood strikes. That prompted a public outcry and a rescinded invitation to host the National Book Awards. Drew seems to be getting the most flack, but she isn't the only TV host coming back this fall. Sam checks in with Vox's Alex Abad-Santos and Rebec…
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Is Rotten Tomatoes… Rotten?
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Rotten Tomatoes is the place you go when you want to figure out whether or not to see a movie. It aggregates reviews on its “Tomatometer” and tells you whether a film is “fresh” or “rotten.” But its math formula sucks, and it’s easily manipulated. New York Magazine’s Lane Brown did a deep investigation into how Rotten Tomatoes works and tells Sam a…
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Olivia Rodrigo and the Year of the Girl
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As Olivia Rodrigo releases Guts, we take stock of the singer-songwriter who seemed to come out of nowhere, fully realized as an artist, back in 2021. How did Olivia surprise us so much before, and can she repeat her success a second time? Sam chats with Lindsay Zoladz, pop music critic at The New York Times, about the dualities of Olivia Rodrigo: S…
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The Real Bad Behavior Behind Reality TV
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Allegations and complaints about working conditions, fair pay, and even covering up acts of sexual violence could force a reality TV reckoning. OG Housewife Bethenny Frankel is calling on her fellow colleagues to unionize, and last month NBCUniversal — home to such reality heavy hitters as The Real Housewives empire, and Vanderpump Rules — was sent…
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Here’s What’s Worth Watching This Fall
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Yes, the writers’ and actors’ strikes mean a lot of reality on TV and delayed releases for movies this fall. But there are some standouts. Sam talks with Vulture’s Jen Chaney and Chris Lee and learns that with shows like Lessons In Chemistry, starring Brie Larson, and films like May December, starring Julianne Moore and Natalie Portman, you could w…
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From #BookTok to Goodreads, Novelist Brandon Taylor on Why Literary Criticism Is Broken
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For our first Into It Book Club pick, Sam talks to Brandon Taylor about his latest novel The Late Americans. Set in Iowa City, the book follows a group of lovers and friends who are navigating the world of art, love, sex... and graduate school. We also ask about the broader discourse around books today: In the age of #BookTok and Goodreads, what sh…
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Did Taylor Swift Curse Scooter Braun? And Will Fyre Fest Fool Us Twyce?
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Justin Bieber. Demi Levato. Ariana Grande. Idina Menzel. All are reportedly dropping their manager, Scooter Braun. He’s one of the biggest players in the music industry, and Taylor Swift apparently hates him enough for owning her masters to be rerecording all her old music. Sam Sanders talks it over with comedian and TV writer Jay Jurden. Also, Jay…
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Chance the Rapper Looks Back on the Impact of 'Acid Rap'
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"A rap game Ferris Bueller." "Fun and life affirming." That's what Pitchfork called the buzziest mixtape of 2013: Chance the Rapper's Acid Rap. The mixtape launched Chance's career and put him alongside some of the biggest artists in hip-hop. To commemorate Acid Rap's 10-year anniversary, Sam chats with Chance about his time touring with Mac Miller…
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Blindsided By White Saviors, and Reality TV’s Reckoning
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Forget Trump’s most recent indictment. We’re discussing three other big controversies this week: allegations that the white folks behind The Blind Side story were crooks rather than saviors, the lack of protections for reality stars (just see the recent episodes of Below Deck Down Under for an illustration), and the debate over whether Bradley Coop…
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The Weird, Wild World of 'Big Brother,' 25 Seasons In
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The CBS reality show Big Brother just entered its 25th season, making it one of the longest-running reality TV shows in history. But it's also one of the genre's weirdest: There are the edited episodes that air on CBS proper, but viewers are encouraged to creep on contestants via 24/7 live feeds; seasons almost always involve racism or misogyny (or…
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The Montgomery Riverfront Brawl Is True Cinema
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A classic piece of American film dropped recently. It has everything: an epic battle, a giant boat, lawn furniture repurposed as weapons... and everyone's talking about it, including our guests this week Jonquilyn Hill, host of Vox's The Weeds podcast, and Alex Abad-Santos, culture writer at Vox. They debate with Sam about who should direct an actu…
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How AI Is (Already) Transforming Hollywood
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We've been hearing a lot about artificial intelligence in TV and movies from both sides of the Hollywood strikes. Some actors and writers are afraid AI could replace them entirely. But how does AI work in the industry right now? And to what extent? Sam chats with VFX artist Ryan Laney about his work digitally replacing human faces — in the name of …
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What Is Going On With Lizzo?
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Three of Lizzo’s former dancers sued her for alleged sexual harassment and creating a hostile work environment. How does this change how we feel about Lizzo — especially those inspired by her joyful, unapologetic persona and empowerment of plus-sized women of color? Sam welcomes his Vibe Check co-hosts Saeed Jones and Zach Stafford to talk it out. …
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#FreeBritney’s Dark Turn
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At the end of Britney Spears’s conservatorship in November of 2021, most of her fans rejoiced. But conspiracy theories have a subset of #FreeBritney fans convinced she’s still not really free. They focus on what they see as oddities or glitches in some of her Instagram posts. Vox reporter Rebecca Jennings says there are even theories that Britney h…
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Country Music’s Race Problem
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What is up right now with country music and race? There’s the controversy over Jason Aldean’s “Try That in a Small Town,” Morgan Wallen topping the charts despite previously being canceled for saying the n-word, and Luke Combs’ country cover of Tracy Chapman’s Fast Car – which is doing better than the original. Sam talks with writer, sociologist, a…
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The Mount Rushmore of 'Real Housewives'
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Bravo replaced the whole cast for the 14th season of The Real Housewives of New York City, but it almost doesn’t matter. “It’s about the franchise,” says Brian Moylan, who writes Vulture’s Housewives Institute Bulletin. There are, however, a handful of housewives that have had a lasting impact. A Housewives Mount Rushmore, if you will. Brian tells …
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Culture Is Back: Why We Love 'The Golden Bachelor' and Those Weird TikTok Livestreams
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It's Barbenheimer weekend and Sam is joined by none other than Who? Weekly hosts Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber for our own doubleheader — of games. First, we break down the long list of Barbie merch collabs from Burger King to Progressive to Uno. Then, we discuss ABC's The Golden Bachelor and why it's never too late for love; social media influenc…
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The Enduring Appeal of Barbie
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Barbie (the doll) is more than 60 years old. But Barbie (the idea, the aesthetic, the cultural artifact) feels more current than ever. And yes, the highly anticipated Barbie movie is definitely a big part of that, but Barbiecore has been around way before the film was even a sparkle in Greta Gerwig's eye. Sam chats with The Cut's Danya Issawi about…
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What Happens When All of Hollywood’s on Strike?
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It’s been more than 60 years since both the Writers Guild and the Screen Actors Guild have gone on strike at the same time. Sam chats with Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw about what the actors want and what the walkout will mean for Hollywood in the coming weeks and months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
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Everything You’ve Ever Wanted to Know About Sex Onscreen
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That recent scene in The Idol, the one where the intimacy coordinator gets locked in a bathroom, was fully unrealistic. So what does an intimacy coordinator do? They choreograph intimacy scenes and help filmmakers not get canceled. What do they work on besides sex? Well anything involving nudity, including bodily functions and medical procedures. W…
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A Messy 2023 So Far: Ranking Celebrity Breakups and Songs of the Summer
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We're about halfway into 2023... but are we into it? Sam and Jay Jurden, comedian and writer on The Problem with Jon Stewart, take stock of the year thus far in pop culture: messy celebrity breakups, songs of the summer, the expanding cinematic universe of Mattel toys and dolls, the fall of Twitter, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit…
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A Portrait of Taylor Swift, Miss Americana
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What better way to celebrate our nation's independence than with an episode about Miss Americana herself? We revisit our episode about Taylor Swift from the eve of her Midnights album release. What is the meaning of Taylor Swift? She's performed damsel in distress, but represents women's empowerment. She's a confessional artist, but is careful abou…
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'The Bear' Has an Improbably Good Second Season; Harry & Meghan, Not So Much
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What led podcaster and Spotify executive Bill Simmons to call Prince Harry and Meghan Markle "grifters" following the news that Spotify wouldn't continue its reportedly $20 million deal with the couple? Sam asks Vulture critics Kathryn VanArendonk and Nicholas Quah whether the era of huge celebrity content deals is over. We also get into the improb…
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My Beyoncé Ticket Cost $4,000: Why the Touring Industry Might Be Broken
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Content creator and head of the Beyhive Kalen Allen is more than OK spending four thousand dollars on one ticket for Beyoncé’s Renaissance tour. 2023 feels like a big year for huge stadium tours for artists like Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Bruce Springsteen, Ed Sheeran and more. But why are tickets so expensive, and how much are fans willing to put up w…
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‘And Just Like That’ Writers Heard Your Feelings About Che
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Samantha Irby knows what you think about the newer characters on ‘And Just Like That.’ She writes for the ‘Sex and the City’ reboot, which addressed critiques of the original series’ whiteness by introducing new, non-white friends. Reactions were mixed over how well they pulled it off the first season, and people especially hated the over-the-top c…
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The Culture That Made Me Queer
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Sometimes before we have the language to describe ourselves, we have the culture in front of us to help — the movies, TV shows, and music we listened to and watched that's had a lasting impact. In honor of Pride Month, we ask three creatives about the culture that made them queer: writer, actor, and producer Lena Waithe; Tony Award-winning actor an…
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'The Flash,' 'The Idol,' and 'The Ultimatum': Watch, Hate-Watch, or Skip?
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The Flash is giving DC Comics its own multiverse, but its star is giving... controversy. Ezra Miller was once considered The Next Big Thing in Hollywood, but after a string of arrests and destructive behavior... where does that leave us? More importantly: Do we really need more superhero multiverses? And we chat about whether the best approach to H…
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How Netflix Envy Broke TV
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Netflix broke the TV mold in 2013 with ‘House of Cards.’ Now, the streaming wars may have broken TV altogether. There’s so much stuff, a lot isn’t good, it’s confusing to find, sometimes disappears entirely, and, as the writers on strike will tell you, people making it aren’t getting paid the same as they once were. Vulture’s Josef Adalian tells Sa…
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Taylor Swift's Single Era, and How Tom Sandoval Ruined White Nails
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This week, Sam is joined by Lovett or Leave It host and Crooked Media co-founder Jon Lovett to get into the week of culture: Taylor Swift's breakup with Matt Healy, Apple's dip into augmented reality with its Vision Pro, and the latest in the wild animal x drug movie collaboration space Crackcoon. We also hear about the culture that's haunting us: …
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