Two work besties thriving in their late 20s, (or attempting to). Relationships, work, family, society expectations... And the return of Lindsay Lohan. You know what they say: ”3rd time’s the charm!” Our goal is to make ”Fetch” happen.
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Criminal defense attorney Dana McLendon III and neuropsychologist Dr. Katie Spirko examine the tragic true story of the abduction and murder of Holly Bobo.
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A conversationalist podcast in the interstices of life, geekery & entertainment. Also very silly! 😋
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Join Court TV's Michael Ayala in a riveting limited series that takes a new look at the case that launched the nation's obsession with true crime: The O.J. Simpson case. What went right for the defense? What went wrong for the prosecution? Through expert interviews, first-hand accounts, and never-before-seen footage, each episode dives into the courtroom drama and the shocking twists that led to the most stunning jury verdict in history.
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This is a story in my head that I am trying to put on paper but instead I am putting into audio. Sorry for my voice. Don’t be afraid to tell me what you think.
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All kinds of things can be spoken here. I'm only one podcast in, so it's hard to describe what I have here.
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Welcome to the podcast where the genuine stories of guests take center stage, offering insights into the people behind the science, their journeys, and aspirations. Uncovering the Trials and Errors. I'm Kasia Kuzmicz-Kowalska, a recent PhD graduate, driven by a passion for both science and storytelling. Join me and my guests on a journey Beyond Academia. Expect a candid exchange of experiences, invaluable advice and a deep dive into the advantages and challenges of various career paths. Allo ...
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12. Living with your partner - “He left the milk open”
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37:07Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the realities of living together with a partner, exploring the misconceptions and challenges that arise in cohabitation. They share personal experiences, the importance of communication, and how to maintain romance amidst daily routines. The conversation also touches on the negotiation of responsibilities …
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11. Clubbing isn't what it used to be
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37:13Summary In this episode, the hosts explore the multifaceted experience of clubbing in your late 20s, discussing the cost-benefit analysis of going out, the importance of music and venue, the rising costs associated with clubbing, and the changing demographics of club-goers. They also touch on safety, consent, and etiquette in clubs, as well as tren…
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10. Marriage: Is it a thing of the past?
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33:44Summary In this episode of the Trial and Error and Error Podcast, hosts LJ and Ale explore the evolving concept of marriage in modern society. They discuss the decline in marriage rates, the rise of cohabitation, and the changing roles of gender in marriage decisions. The conversation delves into cultural perspectives, legal aspects, and the implic…
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Summary In this episode of the Trial and Error and Error Podcast, the hosts delve into the complexities of office romances, discussing statistics, dynamics, and the cultural implications of workplace relationships. They explore the risks and rewards associated with dating colleagues, the generational differences in attitudes towards office romance,…
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8. Exes - To Friend or Not to Friend
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39:09Summary In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts LJ and Ale delve into the complexities of maintaining friendships with ex-partners. They explore the statistics surrounding this phenomenon, discuss the reasons why some people choose to stay friends with their exes, and weigh the pros and cons of such relationships. The conversation als…
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7. Marathon Running: The Quarter-Life Crisis
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29:34Summary In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, the hosts delve into the myths surrounding marathon running, exploring its cultural significance, personal experiences, and the psychological aspects of training. They discuss the increasing popularity of marathons, the dangers of overexertion, and the importance of proper training. The conver…
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Testimony of Jerry Gonzalez (08/14/25) in Zach Adams PCR trial - Holly Bobo case updates
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16:55Trial attorney and co-host Dana McLendon III provides recent court updates and takes you through the August 14, 2025, testimony of Jerry Gonzalez. Mr. Gonzalez provided a jaw-dropping account of his experiences as co-counsel for Zach Adams in the 2017 trial of Zach Adams for the 2011 kidnapping, assault, and murder of 20-year-old nursing student Ho…
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6. Having an Archenemy with Grace
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29:28Summary In this episode of Trial and Error, the hosts delve into the complexities of female rivalry, using the story of Cheryl as a case study. They explore the psychological and sociological aspects of why women often compete for social acceptance and how this manifests in relationships. The discussion touches on the Mean Girls Syndrome, the natur…
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Summary In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts Ale and LJ delve into the psychological phenomenon known as Impostor Syndrome. They explore its origins, societal influences, and personal experiences, discussing how it affects high achievers, particularly women. The conversation highlights the impact of social media on self-perception,…
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4. What makes a Good Partner?
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40:02In this episode of the Trial & Error & Error Podcast, Ale and LJ explore the complexities of love and relationships, discussing the importance of self-awareness, communication, and understanding what makes a good partner. They delve into the four essential questions to consider when seeking a partner, the significance of self-regulation versus co-r…
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This episode continues to delve into the heart-wrenching case of 20-year-old nursing student Holly Bobo, who was abducted from her family home on April 13, 2011. This heinous crime sparked the most expensive and exhaustive investigation in Tennessee’s history, yet justice has never been achieved. Three years after her disappearance, Holly’s skeleta…
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1. Never Go to Karaoke with someone who knows how to Kara-oak
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38:21Welcome to the debut episode of "Trial and Error... and Error!" Join Ale and LJ, two work besties, as they spill the tea and share the chaos of life, love, and everything in between. In this episode, get to know the hosts as they introduce themselves and the theme of their podcast. From their journey to Austria to their aspirations of becoming meme…
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2. "Home is where your underwear is"
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29:45In this episode of Trial and Error, hosts Ale and LJ explore the multifaceted concept of home. From personal anecdotes of moving across continents to cultural insights on migration, they delve into what it truly means to find and define home. With stories from Habitat for Humanity and reflections on their own journeys, they discuss how home can be …
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3. Friends in Adulthood
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33:53In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, Ale and LJ dive into the ultimate millennial crisis: making friends in your late 20s. Join them as they share personal stories, research insights, and practical tips on navigating friendships in adulthood. From the challenges of relocating and career shifts to the impact of social media and remote wor…
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We're just work besties trying to start a podcast... but first, we have to figure out how to actually record one. This blooper has mic confusion, setting disasters, and the kind of banter that’ll make you feel like you're right there with us (struggling). It’s messy, it’s real, it’s SO us. 🎧✨Trial & Error & Error Podcast által
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We said we were starting a podcast — we didn’t say we’d do it quietly. Our first Bloopers is pure chaos: mic checks, accidental singing, and us getting dramatic about volume levels. This is your official behind-the-scenes moment. Listen in before the real episodes drop! This blooper is your official welcome to the madness — and it’s only the beginn…
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Episode 9: Suborning Perjury - Victor Dinsmore Is Told What He Remembers
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1:04:29As Dr. Katie Spirko remains under a court-imposed sequestration order, join co-host Dana McLendon on the latest episode of the Trial & Error podcast. This episode peels back the curtain to expose the questionable investigation and interrogation tactics underlying the testimony of another key witness in the 2017 State of Tennessee vs Zach Adams tria…
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Episode 8: Terrifying Bureaucratic Incompetence - Caught Red-Handed, Part 2
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40:06In this gripping episode, with Dr. Katie Spirko under a sequestration order barring her from discussing the case, co-host Dana McLendon takes you on a solo journey through the shocking second half of Dylan Adams' coerced and verifiably false confession. Even the TBI admits Dylan's account of events cannot be true. As tensions rise, delve into the i…
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In her first announcement since trial dates in the Zach Adams vs. State of Tennessee post-conviction relief petition commenced, Dr. Spirko explains why she can no longer discuss the case, and what is happening to the podcast in light of this latest development. www.thetrialanderrorpodcast.com www.innocentbrothers.com…
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Dana McLendon provides an update on the hearing for Zach Adams' Post-Conviction Relief petition.Dana McLendon III & Dr. Katie Spirko által
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Join Dana McLendon, the co-host of the Trial and Error Podcast, as he provides an exclusive update on the high-stakes legal battle in the case of State v. Zachary Adams. In this gripping episode, listeners are taken to the eve of a crucial post-conviction relief hearing, set to unravel the troubling details of a controversial trial. More than a dec…
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Episode 7: Truth Becomes Irrelevant - Caught Red-Handed
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46:52Step into the heart of a gripping mystery as we uncover the questionable circumstances surrounding Dylan Adams' so-called confession. On the evening of September 17, 2014, special agents Brent Booth and Jeff Jackson listened to Adams narrate a chilling tale, but not everything was as it seemed. In this episode, we delve into the intricate web woven…
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Episode 6: Eye on the Sparrow - Jan 16, 2025 Court hearing with defense attorney Jennifer Thompson
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30:57Join Dr. Katie Spirko and Dana McLendon on a trip to Savannah, TN, for a court hearing and a stop by Zach Adams’ ransacked family home. They are joined by Jennifer Thompson, Zach’s former defense trial attorney, who pulls back the curtain on the flawed investigation and court proceedings leading to his wrongful conviction in 2017. Zach Adams was se…
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Episode 5: Prey for the Wicked - Terry Britt Testifies
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49:55Forensic neuropsychologist, Dr. Katie Spirko, and veteran criminal defense attorney, Dana McLendon III, analyze the testimony of Terry Britt, a convicted kidnapping rapist, as this once-prime suspect takes the stand as State’s witness during the trial of Zach Adams. With a history riddled with violent crime and deceit, Britt's testimony is a tangle…
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Episode 4: "IT" - A Hard Look at Terry Britt
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30:46Join forensic neuropsychologist Dr. Katie Spirko and criminal defense attorney Dana McLendon III in taking a hard look at (multi-convicted serial rapist and kidnapper) Terry Britt - the man long suspected of evading justice for the kidnapping, assault, and murder of Holly Bobo. There is good reason for the suspicion. In Part 1 of this episode, Terr…
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Inside the Jury Room | Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win? Podcast
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42:51In the season finale, a former juror and court participants recall the not guilty verdict for O.J. Simpson after nine months of testimony and only four and a half hours of jury deliberation. To catch up on the facts, CLICK HERE. (https://www.courttv.com/tag/oj-simpson/) Watch 24/7 Court TV LIVE Stream Today https://www.courttv.com/ Join the Investi…
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The Bloody Gloves | Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win? Podcast
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44:07In this episode, courtroom participants recall the infamous moment when O.J. Simpson tried on the bloody gloves and how it affected the trial's outcome. It explores how the prosecution's mistakes, the media frenzy, and the "if it doesn't fit, you must acquit" argument swayed the jury. To catch up on the facts, CLICK HERE. (https://www.courttv.com/t…
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In this bonus episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, co-host Dana McLendon III updates listeners on the recent March 21, 2025, hearing in Zach Adams's post-conviction relief petition. Please also check out our YouTube channel @TrialandErrorPodcast for a YouTube video update on this hearing with Dana and co-host Dr. Katie Spirko.…
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Episode 3 (Part 2): Train the Witness - examining Jason Autry's trial testimony
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32:35In this gripping episode of 'Trial and Error,' we continue to delve deep into the controversial testimony of Jason Autry, whose words played a pivotal role in the trial of Zach Adams. Journey with us as we dissect the intricacies of Autry's narrative, the peculiar vocabulary choices that suggest coaching, and the implausibilities that cast doubt on…
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Episode 3 (Part 1): Train the Witness - examining Jason Autry's trial testimony
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39:45Join us in Episode 3 of Trial and Error, as hosts Dana McLendon and Dr. Katie Spirko continue their deep dive into the haunting mystery of Holly Bobo's disappearance and murder. This episode brings you to a crucial point in the 2017 trial of Zach Adams, shedding light on the lone trial that sought justice for Holly. Discover how a contentious testi…
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Attack the Timeline | Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win? Podcast
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44:01Detective Tom Lange and Prosecutor Bill Hodgman guide you through the night of the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. O.J. Simpson's defense raised reasonable doubt by arguing that the timeline was too tight for him to have committed the murders of Nicole and Ron. To catch up on the facts, CLICK HERE. (https://www.courttv.com/tag/oj-s…
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Episode 2: Train's a Comin - w/ Recanting Star Witness Jason Autry
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1:04:20Dr. Katie Spirko takes you behind the barbed wire fences of Shelby County Penal Farm, where she meets with co-defendant turned star witness for the State, Jason Autry. Now 8 years after the trial and with nothing to gain from changing his story, Jason Autry provides a detailed account of how and why he lied at Zach Adams's 2017 trial for the kidnap…
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Racial Tension | Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win? Podcast
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44:13Individuals who were inside the courtroom during O.J. Simpson's murder trial for the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, share their perspectives on how racial tensions influenced the trial's outcome. They discuss how the defense used the trial as a platform to highlight issues of racism. To catch up on the facts, CLICK HERE. (https://w…
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Episode 1: Unfinished Business - w/ US Marshal John Walker (retd.)
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34:24In the heart-wrenching premiere episode of "Trial and Error," unfold the events of one of Tennessee's most baffling and grim mysteries: the disappearance and murder of 20 year old nursing student Holly Bobo. A serene morning in a small town is shattered, sparking an emotional six-year journey involving relentless law enforcement, a tightly-knit com…
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Domestic Abuse | Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win? Podcast
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44:11Testimony, photos, police reports, and diary entries were all used as evidence of domestic violence in O.J. Simpson’s murder trial, but the jury still found O.J. not guilty of murdering Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. A friend of O.J. and Nicole, Ron Shipp and Denise Brown, Nicole's sister, also share their account of O.J. and Nicole's relati…
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The 'Racist' Cop | Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win? Podcast
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44:24Former LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman who worked on the case against OJ Simpson for the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman shares his perspective on the trial and why OJ was acquitted. To watch more, CLICK HERE. (https://www.courttv.com/tag/oj-simpson/) Watch 24/7 Court TV LIVE Stream Today https://www.courttv.com/ Join the Investigation …
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Welcome to the Trial & Error podcast, where seasoned criminal defense attorney Dana McLendon III, alongside co-host & forensic neuropsychologist Dr. Katie Spirko, take you on a deep dive into the tragic case of Holly Bobo, and the subsequent wrongful convictions of Zach Adams and his brother Dylan Adams. Holly Bobo’s disappearance in 2011 led to a …
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Murders In Brentwood | Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win? Podcast
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44:33The new limited series “Trial & Error: Why Did O.J. Win?” explores the most unforgettable moments from the O.J. Simpson murder trial as Court TV’s Michael Ayala asks the question that’s been on our minds for thirty years – why did O.J. win? The premiere episode details the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, featuring interviews with i…
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Ep020 - Ryan Cubero: Navigating the Ups and Downs of Career Transitions
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1:27:24What does a data scientist do? How does the work environment in a start-up contrast with that in academia? What challenges await those who switch scientific disciplines? How to stay involved with the scientific community beyond academia? The typical academic path involves numerous transitions—changing projects, labs, and institutes. Mobility is not…
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Ep019 - Peggy Sotiropoulou: Mythbusting Biotech Industry: Insights from a CSO
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56:14What does a CSO of a biotech company do on a day-to-day basis? How much truth lies behind the common stereotypes about working in the biotech industry? What can make you stand out as a candidate for a biotech industry job? Step into the dynamic world of biotech with our latest episode as we debunk common myths and uncover the realities of working i…
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Ep018 - Ashley Ruba: How to launch a fulfilling non-academic career?
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1:08:32What does a Human Factors Engineer do? What can lead to a decision to exit academia, and what can drive someone to share their transition publicly? What are the do's & don'ts of job hunting? Our guest is Ashley Ruba - an American researcher, currently working as a Human Factors Engineer at Arthrex. Ashley is also a founder of After Academia, a coac…
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Ep017 - Rose De Guzman: Making science more accessible through Product Management and Mentoring
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53:47What does the position of Product Manager entail? What makes someone who has a good chance of becoming a PI leave academia? How to deal with imposter syndrome during big career transitions? Our guest is Rose De Guzman - a Filipino-American scientist, currently working as a Product Manager at Evident Scientific. Rose is a passionate advocate for mak…
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Episode 016 - Prequel with Kasia Kuzmicz-Kowalska
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15:26Why was Science on Trial [and Error] on a long break? What is coming in the new season? In this special Prequel episode, Kasia Kuzmicz-Kowalska opens up in a candid self-interview, addressing the reasons behind the extended break of the show. She reflects on her personal journey, navigating the challenges of completing her PhD while prioritizing he…
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In this new introduction get to know the host of Science on Trial [and Error], Kasia Kuzmicz-Kowalska, and find out more about the podcast. What's the idea behind the podcast? What can you expect from the new season that looks Beyond Academia? Our new lineup spans a broad spectrum of scientific careers, ensuring there's something for everyone. Allo…
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Episode 014 - Katarzyna Siuzdak
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1:06:32Episode 014: Prof. Katarzyna Siuzdak is a group leader of the Laboratory of Functional Materials at IMP PAN in Gdańsk (Poland). The group researches Nanomaterials for their use in conversion of solar energy into chemical or electrical energy.Kasia explains the differences between doing basic research and developing applicable prototypes for the mar…
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Episode 013 - Vivien Ionasz
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59:43Episode 013: Vivien Ionasz is a biologist from Austria and a PhD student in German Cancer Research Center (DKFZ) in Heidelberg. She is currently investigating the interplay between transcription and DNA damage in neural progenitor cells in the the lab of Dr. Wei.We talk about challenges of moving abroad for studying, fast pace of scientific researc…
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Episode 012 - Daisy Shearer
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55:15Episode 012: Daisy Shearer is a British physicist and a PhD candidate in Experimental Condensed Matter Physics at the University of Surrey (UK). Her research project is focused on semiconductor spintronics for quantum technology applications.We discuss the high prevalence of mental health issues in the academic community and the need for more equal…
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Episode 011 - Ewelina Kamińska
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1:10:13Episode 011: Ewelina Kamińska is a Polish scientist, science communicator and a PhD candidate at LMU in Munich (Germany). She is investigating active demethylation pathways in the group of Prof. Thomas Carell.We discuss the culture of (over)working in the competitive academic environment and the power of inspiring teaching. Ewelina gives insight in…
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Case Study: Starting a PhD in times of pandemic
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1:03:57Episode 010: Case Study: Starting a PhD in times of pandemic.In this special episode my guests are Christine Fiedler, Ishita Gupta, Rebecca June Morse Mora and Valentin Hübner. They all started their PhD studies at IST Austria in September 2020, but their experiences differ in many ways. We discuss how they dealt with application process, working d…
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Episode 009 - Mojtaba Tavakoli
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1:01:16Episode 009: Mojtaba Tavakoli is a biologist and a PhD student in the group of Prof. Johann Danzl at IST Austria. His research is focused on developing methods to study biological samples with more precision using expansion microscopy.We discuss the power of collaborative science and how we all go through difficult times during our PhDs. Mojtaba sh…
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