The Journeys With PDA coffee chat podcast will be discussing and sharing all things Pathological Demand Avoidance autism profile and neurodiversity. Join Heather and Kerissa as we share our journey parenting our autistic PDA children. We will also share our experience in discovering our own neurodivergence! We will be discussing the authentic and honest reality that comes with supporting unique brains. There will be lots of laughs and even some tears.You will find connection, community and c ...
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EP 25: Autism As A Dynamic Disability
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat about recognizing autism as a dynamic disability. This means that autistics abilities and challenges can change and evolve, influenced by personal, social, and environmental factors. Autism, when seen as dynamic, allows for a more holistic understanding of the individual's experiences. Join Hea…
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EP 24: Special Guest: Vinnie Stars- The Adult PDA Experience; Leveling (Part 2)
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa continue our chat with Vinnie Stars about the adult experience of PDA, which includes a fantastic explanation and discussion of "Leveling." Vinnie is a white queer Autistic / ADHD PDA, vision & hearing impaired survivor, speaker, coach and consultant who channels positive Autistic / Neurodivergent…
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EP 23: Special Guest: Vinnie Stars- The Adult PDA Experience (Part 1)
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Vinnie Stars about the adult experience of PDA. Vinnie is a white queer Autistic / ADHD PDA, vision & hearing impaired survivor, speaker, coach and consultant who channels positive Autistic / Neurodivergent Identity by creating Liberatory Processing Spaces through their business Square P…
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EP 22: The Double Empathy Problem
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat about an interesting phenomenon known as The Double Empathy Problem. The Double Empathy Problem suggests that when people with very different experiences interact, they will struggle to empathize with each other. This creates misunderstandings between Neurodivergents and Neurotypicals that rang…
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EP 21: Special Guest: Clare Truman - PDA & Education
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Clare Truman. Clare Truman is an education consultant, author, PhD student, and big sister to an autistic young man. She specializes in supporting PDA children and young people to access education. She is the author of ‘The Teacher’s Guide to Pathological Demand Avoidance: Essential Stra…
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EP 20: Special Guest: Donna Henderson- Is This Autism?
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Dr. Donna Henderson about digging deeper into the characteristics of autism that may be missed by traditional assessments. Dr. Donna Henderson has been a clinical neuropsychologist for over 30 years. She is passionate about identifying and supporting autistic individuals, particularly th…
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EP 19: Special Guest: Robyn Gobbel- Big, Baffling Behaviors
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Robin Goebel, a former therapist and play therapist, about supporting children with big baffling behaviors and vulnerable nervous systems. Robin discusses her shift from focusing solely on trauma to a broader understanding of neurodivergent minds and the impact of the autonomic nervous s…
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EP 18: Special Guest: Sunita Theiss- PDA Flow & Downshifting
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat with special guest Sunita Theiss. Sunita shares her journey as a mother of neurodivergent children and her own neurodivergent identity. She discusses the process of realizing her family's neurodivergence and the freedom it brought. Sunita also talks about the challenges and joys of raising chil…
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EP 17: All About Autistic Inertia
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather & Kerissa discuss the concept of autistic inertia and its impact on PDA individuals and autistic people. Autistic inertia refers to the tendency to remain at rest or keep moving in a constant direction, and it plays a significant role in transitions and task-switching. The discussion explores the frustration …
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EP 16: Special Guest: Lisa Baskin Wright; Neurodiversity Affirming IEPs
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Lisa Baskin Wright (IEP Coach) about Neurodiversity Affirming IEPs. Lisa discusses her journey and experiences in supporting families with PDA learners. She emphasizes the importance of curiosity and humanizing the child in the IEP process. Lisa also highlights the challenges faced by pa…
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EP 15: Season 2 kick off- Autistic Burnout
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Send us a text Welcome back! In this episode, Heather & Kerissa kick off season 2 of the podcast discussing the topic of autistic burnout. They define autistic burnout as a syndrome resulting from chronic life stress and a mismatch of expectations and abilities without adequate support. They explore the common characteristics of autistic burnout, s…
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EP 14: Season 1 Wrap Up!
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa reminisce and chat about each episode from Season 1. We had such a fantastic first season! We learned so much from our amazing guests! We are so excited about Season 2 coming February '24!! Season 1 Episode 1: Who We Are Episode 2: PDA: What it is & Why we care Episode 3: PDA vs. autistic avoidanc…
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EP 13: Special Guest: Tricia Wagner, LCPC- Understanding Suicide and Suicidal Ideation
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather and Kerissa chat with Tricia Wagner, LCPC and director of Outpatient Services at Shodair Children's Hospital. We have an open conversation about understanding suicidal thoughts vs. suicidal ideation. Ways to support a child experiencing suicidal ideation. We talk about how to have a conversation with your chi…
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EP 12: Special Guest: Dr. Jena Foreman, Clinical Pharmacist (Part 2)
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat with Jena Foreman, Clinical Pharmacist. This is part 2 of the conversation with Jena. They all continue their conversation about prescription medications. We talk about all things medications. We ask the questions you are too afraid to ask. We get the answers parents need for making tough decis…
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EP 11: Special Guest: Suzanne Gunn- The Weight of Parental Shame
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather & Kerissa chat with their friend and sleep specialist Suzanne Gunn. Suzanne is the mother of 2 neurodivergent children, both PDAers. She is also a Neurodivergent Sleep Specialist. You can learn more about her at The Motherload Neurodivergent Family Sleep. (https://linktr.ee/themotherloadpda) We will be chatti…
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EP 10: Special Guest: Dr. Jena Foreman, Clinical Pharmacist (Part 1)
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Send us a text In this episode Heather and Kerissa chat with Dr. Jena Foreman all about medications. We ask all the questions you are afraid to ask. We talk about how medications are metabolized, dosed and med classifications. This information is for informational and educational purpose. We are in no way prescribing or even recommending medication…
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EP 9: Special Guest: Suzanne Gunn, The Motherload Sleep ND- Sleep & PDA (Part 2)
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Send us a text This episode is Part 2 of Sleep & PDA . Heather & Kerissa chat again with Suzanne Gunn from The Motherload Neurodivergent Family Sleep. (https://linktr.ee/themotherloadpda) Suzanne is is a Certified Infant & Family Sleep Specialist. She is neurodivergent and parent of a PDAer. Sleep can be a challenge for neurodivergent brains! Ever …
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EP 8: Special Guest: Suzanne Gunn, Sleep Specialist- PDA & Neurodivergent Sleep (Part 1)
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Send us a text In this episode Heather & Kerissa chat with Suzanne Gunn from The Motherload Neurodivergent Family Sleep. (https://linktr.ee/themotherloadpda) Suzanne is is a Certified Infant & Family Sleep Specialist. She is neurodivergent and parent of a PDAer. We chat all about SLEEP! Suzanne share the science behind sleeping and the the challeng…
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EP 7: Special Guest: Michelle Graves- All Things PDA & Autistic Burnout
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Send us a text In this episode Heather & Kerissa have special guest Michelle Graves from Homebody Michelle. You can connect with Michelle on Instagram at: @homebodymichelleg (https://www.instagram.com/homebodymichelleg/?hl=en) Michelle is PDA and mother of 4 PDA children. She shares of her experience of supporting her family to a more peaceful and …
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EP 6: Special Guest: Laura Kerbey- Special Interests
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Send us a text In this episode Heather & Kerissa are joined by Laura Kerbey from PAST (Positive Assessments Support & Training) https://p-ast.co.uk/ Laura's new book is The Educator's Experience of Pathological Demand Avoidance. *Trigger Warning: In this episode we are talking about special interests which include subjects that may not be suitable …
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EP 5: No- We Aren't All A Little Autistic
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Send us a text In this episode Heather & Kerissa discuss the diagnostic criteria of autism. We dig deep into the autistic experience. Explain and give real life examples of autistic characteristics. We use our lived experience plus diagnostic criteria to explain that a person cannot be "a little autistic" and that everyone is not "a little autistic…
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EP 4: Special Guest Amanda Diekman: Low-Demand Parenting -Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)
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Send us a text Heather & Kerissa chat with special guest Amanda Diekman author of the soon to be released book "Low-Demand Parenting". Amanda shares about her family's journey through Pathological Demand Avoidance, autistic burnout, crisis and the path they took to find peace and healing. Amanda is a coach and has many helpful courses and resources…
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EP 3: Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) Vs. Autistic Avoidance- What's the Difference?
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Send us a text In a world full of demands, tasks, obligations and busy schedules, we all find ourselves avoiding something. As humans, we avoid and procrastinate. In this episode, Heather & Kerissa talk about the difference in the kind of avoidance that comes along with being autistic and Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). The root cause of avoid…
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EP 2: Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)- What it is & Why we care!
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Send us a text In this episode, Heather & Kerissa go into detail about what Pathological Demand Avoidance autism profile is. They discuss the characteristics and how PDA can present. Heather & Kerissa also share why PDA is such an important subject to them. Join us as we have in-depth and real discussions around PDA and the autistic experience. We …
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EP 1: Who We Are- An Introduction
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Send us a text Who We Are- An Introduction Welcome to our first episode of Journeys With PDA Coffee Chat Podcast. In this episode, you will get to meet Heather Jessup and Kerissa Lyman. They share about themselves, talk about their own neurodivergence and what brought them on to the journey of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism profile. The…
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