Heterodox Out Loud, hosted by HxA president, John Tomasi, is an ongoing podcast featuring conversations with people across the academy and beyond. Listen to insightful, thought-provoking episodes from the HxA community by adding our podcast to your lineup.
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A nuanced and balanced look at the forces that unite and separate us as a society. Thoughtful conversations that touch on the psychology of political, moral, and spiritual thought
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Orthodox Christianity and Non-Orthodox Doctrine
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The latest from the HxA podcast features the best of Heterodox Academy's panels and conversations. Earlier episodes of the HxA podcast are part of the series "Half Hour of Heterodoxy," hosted by social psychologist and co-founder of HxA, Chris Martin. Martin talks civility, polarization, truth, ideology, and pedagogy with Jon Haidt, John McWhorter, Alice Dreger, Glenn Loury, Cristine Legare, and other fascinating guests. You can find all of our recorded panels, conversations, and interviews ...
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Heterodoxy in High Schools: Lessons from Deerfield Academy with John Austin | Ep 26
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How do schools navigate the complexities of inclusion, polarization, and freedom of expression while fostering a vibrant learning environment? Today, John Austin, Head of School at Deerfield Academy, joins Heterodox Out Loud to explore these questions and share insights from the groundbreaking report, Thriving in a World of Pluralistic Contention: …
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The Golden Era of Jewish-Muslim Dialogue: What Can We Learn Today? with Elisha Russ-Fishbane | Ep 25
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How did a classicist's journey through Greco-Roman literature and Arabic studies shape his unique approach to academia? Today's episode features Elisha Russ-Fishbane, associate professor at NYU and research director at the Center for the Study of Antisemitism. In this engaging conversation, Elisha recounts his academic journey that began with a lov…
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From Wokeness to Pluralism: A New Vision for Universities with Eboo Patel | Ep 24
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What new vision can pluralism bring to today’s universities? Today, founder of Interfaith America Eboo Patel, joins John to discuss how pluralism can be a guiding principle in transforming higher education away from rigid ideological confines towards a more inclusive and dynamic intellectual space. Eboo shares his journey to understanding pluralism…
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The Classroom Legislative Battle with Keith Whittington | Ep 23
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How does political intervention shape the landscape of higher education? Today, our guest is Keith Whittington, Ph.D, David Boies Professor of Law at Yale Law School and director of the Center for Academic Freedom. In this episode, host John Tomasi and Keith Whittington discuss the increasingly contentious legislative interventions in higher educat…
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We Have Never Been Woke with Musa al-Gharbi | Ep 22
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What happens when the guardians of cultural narratives and societal norms become inseparable from the very hierarchies they critique? Today, we explore the concept of "symbolic capitalists" with Musa al-Gharbi, author of We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite and assistant professor at the School of Communication and Jo…
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Against Free Speech with Anthony Leaker | Ep 21
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Is the principle of free speech being weaponized to legitimize harmful ideologies like racism, sexism, and transphobia? What happens when the sanctity of free speech collides with the complexities of societal power dynamics? In today's episode, we navigate this intricate terrain with Anthony Leaker, a senior lecturer in culture and critical theory …
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The Role of Universities in the Age of Campus Activism with Amna Khalid | Ep 20
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What is the real purpose of a university—truth-seeking or molding active citizens? Are university campuses becoming echo chambers, leading to self-censorship among not just conservatives but liberals too? Today's guest is Amna Khalid, an esteemed Associate Professor of History at Carleton College and a prominent voice within the Heterodox Academy (…
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Trans Rights and Gender Identity with Kathleen Stock | Ep. 19
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What happens when public policy meets the complex world of modern gender identity? Our guest today is Kathleen Stock, a former professor of philosophy at the University of Sussex, author of the critically-acclaimed "Material Girls", and an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) awardee. Kathleen joins host John Tomasi to navigate the ofte…
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Sex, Anthropology, and Cancellation with Elizabeth Weiss | Ep. 18
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What happens when foundational scientific concepts clash with modern identity politics? Today, our guest is Elizabeth Weiss, professor emeritus of anthropology at San José State University, Segal Center research fellow, and a renowned author. Her latest book, "On the War Path: My Battles with Indians, Pretendians, and Woke Warriors", is now availab…
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I Changed My Mind on Campus Free Speech with Jilian Lederman | Ep. 17
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Can emotional connections to our identities justify restrictions on free speech? This provocative episode of Heterodox Out Loud explores the deep tension between personal relationships and public discussions. Host John Tomasi sits down with Jilian Lederman, a graduate of Brown University and a strong advocate for free speech. Together, they examine…
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Campus Protests and the Divestment Movement with Tyler Austin Harper | Ep. 16
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They delve into specific instances where these movements have influenced policy changes, discussing the tensions between activism and open inquiry. The conversation highlights recent cases where protests have either stifled or spurred debates about institutional investment ethics and the balance between social justice and academic discourse. Finall…
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The Anxious Generation Goes to College with Jonathan Haidt | Ep. 15
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From Coddling to Crisis. Today, we trace the trajectory of student fragility from playgrounds to classrooms. Welcome to Heterodox Out Loud. In today's episode, our host, John Tomasi, talks with social psychologist and best-selling author Jonathan Haidt about his new book, The Anxious Generation. The book delves into the increasing levels of anxiety…
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Rethinking DEI in Higher Education with Azim Shariff | Ep. 14
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Is diversity simply a box-checking exercise, or does it hold a deeper significance in academia? Today we're joined by Azim Shariff, Ph.D, a distinguished professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia, to explore the complex landscape of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in higher education. In this conversation, John Tomasi and…
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Unveiling the Ivy League Billion-Dollar Taxpayer Tab with Adam Andrzejewski | Ep. 13
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Discover how Ivy League schools might be shortchanging taxpayers to the tune of billions! Today, we're peeling back the layers of an issue that hits our wallets and our values: the billion-dollar taxpayer support of Ivy League institutions. Host John Tomasi is joined by Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of "Open the Books," an advocate for transpa…
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What Happens When Students Take Over the Class with Mark Carnes | Ep. 12
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What really happened in 1945? Explore how students grapple with historical events and figures to understand their distinctness and uniqueness. In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, host John Tomasi interviews Professor Mark Carnes of Barnard College. Professor Carnes talks about his innovative approach to teaching history, which he calls "reacting…
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The Diploma Divide: How Education Shapes Our Political Landscape with Diana Mutz | Ep. 11
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With the changing 'diploma divide,' what does the new correlation between education and party affiliation tell us about American politics? Today, we're joined by the insightful Diana Mutz as we explore the intriguing shifts within the ideological landscape of higher education and its broader implications for American politics. Universities, once be…
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How to Restore Trust in Science? With Dr. Sandro Galea | Ep. 10
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Can we restore the fractured trust in science and steer public health back to its noble roots? Welcome to Heterodox Out Loud. Today, we are joined by Sandro Galea, M.D., M.P.H., Dr.P.H, who provides insights that challenge us to confront the post-pandemic skepticism clouding the scientific community. In this episode, we will delve into a conversati…
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Should Universities Adopt Institutional Neutrality? With Jamie Kalven | EP. 09
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Today, John Tomasi and award-winning journalist Jamie Kalven explore the complexities surrounding the idea of institutional neutrality within universities and its implications for promoting intellectual freedom and robust argument. They delve into the Kalven Report of 1967 from the University of Chicago. This landmark report sought to balance the p…
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What’s Wrong with Our Universities? With Steven Pinker | Ep. 08
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Are our higher education institutions still nurturing true intellectual diversity? Our guest today is Steven Pinker, a cognitive scientist at Harvard, and today, we'll be exploring the growing concerns within higher ed that institutions are turning into echo chambers, stifling dissent and censoring certain perspectives. In this thought-provoking ep…
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My Academic Freedom Journey from Post-Soviet Russia to Canada with Alexandra Lysova | Ep. 07
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, John Tomasi speaks with Alexandra Lysova. Alexandra Lysova, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor in the School of Criminology at Simon Fraser University (SFU) in Vancouver/Burnaby, Canada. Her research career, spanning more than 20 years, focuses on intimate partner violence, including violence against men, women a…
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Ideological Imbalances with Musa Al-Gharbi | Ep. 06
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, John Tomasi speaks with Musa Al-Gharbi. Musa is a Paul F. Lazarsfeld Fellow in Sociology. His research explores how we think about, talk about, and produce knowledge about social phenomena including race, inequality, social movements, extremism, policing, national security, foreign policy and domestic U.S. pol…
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How Cancel Culture Works with Greg Lukianoff | Ep. 05
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, John Tomasi speaks with Greg Lukianoff, an attorney, New York Times best-selling author, and the President and CEO of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE). He is the author of Unlearning Liberty: Campus Censorship and the End of American Debate, Freedom From Speech, and FIRE’s Guide to Fr…
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Why Biological Sex is Real with Carole Hooven | Ep. 04
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, John Tomasi speaks with Carole Hooven, Ph.D., a Lecturer and Co-director of Undergraduate Studies in the Department of Human Evolutionary Biology at Harvard University. We talk with Carole about Sex & Gender, her cancellation story, and the role of scientists in fostering a free speech culture. Heterodox Out L…
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Building a University with Pano Kanelos | Ep. 03
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In this episode of Heterodox Out Loud, John Tomasi speaks with Pano Kanelos, President of the University of Austin, Texas (UATX). Kanelos is a leading advocate for free speech and open inquiry in higher education. He believes that UATX can offer a better alternative to the current system, which is often characterized by censorship and groupthink. H…
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Free Speech on College Campuses with Eric Kaufmann | Ep. 02
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Heterodox Out Loud Heterodox Out Loud with John Tomasi is a biweekly podcast featuring conversations with people across the academy and beyond. Listen to insightful, thought-provoking episodes from the HxA community by adding our podcast to your lineup. Follow Eric Kaufmann on: Twitter: https://twitter.com/epkaufm/with_replies Website: https://www.…
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