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The Go-To Podcast for Christian moms battling anxiety! **Top 5% Globally-Ranked Podcast** Are you constantly triggered by the chaos of motherhood? Do you wonder if the constant overstimulation will ever stop? Are you ready to stop feeling like a "bad mom" and believe you're actually a great one? I am so excited you're here! This podcast will help you learn to heal your nervous system so you can stop the angry outbursts, find calm amidst the chaos, and finally feel like the amazing mama you a ...
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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

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Disordered is the podcast that delivers real, evidence-based, actionable talk about anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery in a kind, compassionate, community-oriented environment. Josh Fletcher is a qualified psychotherapist in the UK. Drew Linsalata is a therapist practicing under supervision in the US. They're both bestselling authors in the anxiety and mental health space. Josh and Drew are funny, friendly, and they have a knack for combining lived experience, formal training, and profes ...
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If meeting your kids' needs feels heavy—or even sends you to a dark place—this is your reminder: you're not broken. You're spent. In this short voice note episode, I'm sharing what it really means when life feels "too much," and why meeting your nervous system's needs is the first step to healing. WORK WITH ME: 💬 DM me on Instagram or email me the …
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When anxiety and its relentless inner critic take hold, one of the most profound losses is the belief and trust in your own capability. In this episode, Drew and Josh explore how to rebuild self-trust after anxiety disorders erode your confidence in handling life's challenges. The conversation centers on stories from listeners who confronted their …
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If you're the woman who can hold it together like a champ — keep your cool, stay patient, never blow up — but inside, you're simmering with resentment, frustration, or exhaustion… this episode is for you. In today's episode, we unpack: What's really happening in your nervous system when you bottle emotions Why your body can't thrive in a state of i…
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In this quick Matriarch Memo, Rachel shares a personal story about how what looked like ADHD-fueled procrastination was actually something deeper—a stress loop that felt productive but was silently draining her. If you've ever told yourself "I work better under pressure," this is for you. → Rooted Capacity is open now at the founding member rate. D…
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You've mastered the art of doing it all—juggling kids, work, home, and a million mental tabs. But if you've ever caught yourself saying, "I just work better under pressure" or "Stress keeps me going," this episode will challenge the very system you've come to rely on. In this episode, we unpack the real cost of running on stress, why your body migh…
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In this episode, Drew and Josh explore the powerful role of the internal critic—affectionately named "Craig"—in maintaining anxiety disorders and interfering with recovery. They discuss how this nagging inner voice criticizes, questions, and doubts us, often telling us we're doing things wrong or that we'll never be who we hope to be. Let's examine…
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You're resting. You're doing less. You're trying to recharge. But your body still feels… heavy. Your mind still spins. And rest isn't restoring you the way it used to. If you're a high-functioning mom navigating motherhood, marriage, and business as a female entrepreneur—this episode will feel like a breath of fresh air. We're unpacking the hidden …
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In this episode of Disordered, Drew and Josh tackle one of the most frightening anxiety symptoms: air hunger - that terrifying feeling that you can't get a deep enough breath or fully fill your lungs. Drew and Josh draw from both their clinical expertise and personal recovery experiences to explain why this sensation happens, why trying to "fix" yo…
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As an ambitious mom who loves Jesus and also has big dreams, you've probably found yourself wondering… "Why does this life I prayed so hard for feel so heavy?" In today's episode, I'm breaking down 3 subtle but powerful ways your body is rejecting the life you were called to carry—and why that's not a sign of failure, but a wake-up call. If you've …
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A quick personal drop-in from my kitchen table—because the truth is, the thing I thought was a mindset problem? It was something else entirely. If you've been praying for clarity, energy, or peace—and it still feels like you're spinning… press play. This one's short, but it might just change the way you see everything. ✴️ DM me the word MOTIVATE to…
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One of the most common questions we hear from people working through anxiety disorders and OCD is: "How long is this going to take?" In this episode, Drew and Josh tackle the timeline question head-on—but probably not in the way you're expecting. We explore why asking "how long until I recover?" might be the wrong question, and why shifting to "how…
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You've tried routines. You've prayed harder. You've disciplined yourself into the ground. And you're still tired. In this episode, we're flipping the script on why you feel like you can't "keep up"—and what's actually going on beneath the guilt, the overwhelm, and the exhaustion. If you're a high-capacity mother who secretly wonders why you feel so…
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Can your focus on getting better actually make things worse? In this episode, we explore what happens when the recovery process itself becomes an obsession - coining the term "Recovery OCD" to describe the fixation many people develop around their anxiety recovery journey. We dig into the counterintuitive reality that constantly checking "Am I reco…
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Is your exhaustion just burnout—or a spiritual strategy meant to keep you stuck? In this episode of Rooted & Radiant, Rachel goes deep on how the enemy uses physical depletion as an access point to spiritual disconnection. You'll learn why your nervous system is more than a vibe—it's a vessel God wants to resource, not just regulate. If you're a hi…
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How do you handle anxiety when the news feels overwhelming? With constant exposure to current events, political tensions, and global crises through social media and traditional news sources, it's no wonder many people with anxiety disorders find themselves struggling. This week on Disordered we're talking about the complex relationship between news…
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Welcome to another inspiring round of "Did It Anyway" stories, where we celebrate real wins from our community members who chose to move forward despite their anxiety. In this episode, Drew and Josh share powerful listener stories that illustrate a fundamental truth about anxiety recovery: you can take meaningful action even when you feel scared, u…
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In this essential episode, Drew and Josh are joined by Dr. Birthe Macdonald, a psychologist and neuroscience researcher who's become a vital voice in combating mental health misinformation on social media. The conversation tackles the overwhelming sea of questionable advice that anxious people encounter online, from vagus nerve stimulation devices …
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You've done the breathwork. You've worked on your mindset. You've read the books, prayed the prayers, journaled your heart out… and yet your body still feels exhausted. Business still feels heavy. Why? In this episode, I break down the real reason nervous system work hasn't delivered the breakthrough you've been craving—and what you can do instead.…
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You're not tired because you're doing too much. You're tired because you're leaking energy—and no amount of "rest" will fix that if you're skipping regulation. In this mini voice-note-style episode, we unpack the difference between rest and true energetic stewardship. Because high-capacity women need more than a nap… they need to remember how to le…
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In this episode, we explore how the language we use to describe our anxiety experiences can either fuel our struggles or support our recovery. We examine the difference between helpful and unhelpful ways of talking about panic attacks, intrusive thoughts, and anxiety symptoms. We discuss why saying "it feels like I'm dying" versus "I'm experiencing…
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If your nervous system sets the tone in your home, business, and body… how are you stewarding it? This episode is for the high-capacity, faith-led woman who's done managing chaos and is ready to embody peace—without betraying her power. Because peace isn't passive. And leadership isn't sustainable when you're energetically bankrupt. Inside this con…
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Ever tell yourself, "I'll just check one thing…" and then—bam—you've lost 45 minutes and your kid is now covered in flour? Yeah, me too. In this short episode, I'm getting real about the actual reason this keeps happening. It's not just a discipline issue—and you're not failing. It's your nervous system trying to keep you safe in what feels predict…
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In this episode, Josh and Drew tackle one of the most counterintuitive concepts in overcoming panic attacks: learning how to panic better, rather than trying to avoid panic altogether. When facing a new job triggers familiar panic patterns, many people focus on preventing anxiety rather than developing a healthier relationship with it. Drew and Jos…
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You've built the business, hit the milestones, maybe even had your best month yet. On paper, everything is working. But at night? Your brain still won't shut off. You're snappy with your kids even when you want to be present. And no matter how much you do, you still feel… behind. In today's episode, we're digging into why hustle doesn't just live i…
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When you're struggling with anxiety disorders, you often do things that don't reflect who you really are - avoiding social gatherings, canceling plans, or making demands on loved ones that you normally wouldn't. As you start to recover, it's common to feel overwhelming guilt about how your anxiety affected the people around you. In this episode, Dr…
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If you've ever been told to "hold it together," this episode is your permission slip to finally let it fall apart—in the best way. In this deeply personal episode, I unpack what it's looked like to stop stuffing my feelings, why I'm crying more lately (and why I actually celebrate it), and how that's directly tied to nervous system regulation, heal…
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If you've ever thought, "No matter how early I wake up or how much I do, I still feel behind," this episode is for you. In today's honest conversation, I break down the hidden broken model modern high achieving moms are operating from—and the 4 peaceful productivity shifts that help you catch up without hustle. We'll ditch the shame, name the perfe…
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When anxiety takes hold, one of the first casualties is our natural sense of wonder and openness to new experiences. In this episode of Disordered, lets explore how anxiety disorders systematically erode our curiosity about the world around us and our own capabilities. Drew and Josh discuss how anxiety creates a rigid, self-focused mindset that ask…
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I used to feel like I was constantly chasing the next milestone—waiting for life to finally feel easier. In this episode, I'm sharing a simple but powerful mindset shift that helped me stop rushing past my own answered prayers and finally sink into gratitude. 🎧 Come listen as I share this quick story and how it's helping me slow down, see the beaut…
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When something shocking or difficult happens, we're often told we need to "process" our emotions. But what if that endless loop of replaying events in your mind isn't actually processing at all? In this episode, Drew and Josh explore the crucial difference between healthy emotional processing and anxious rumination that keeps us stuck. How to disti…
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There's a common belief floating around that God doesn't care about your happiness—only your sanctification or growth. But is that what Scripture really says? In this episode, Rachel dives into a new perspective on happiness and joy from a biblical lens, explores how Jesus modeled meeting his own needs during ministry, and challenges you to rethink…
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There is a sneaky, subtle thought that is keeping you stuck in the cycle of feeling like a failure every day. In this quick voice-note style episode, I'm sharing something that has come up for me and my clients time and time again, why you may not be aware of this thought, and the damage it does. You really can feel like a good mom again and stop t…
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In this episode of Disordered, the guys tackle one of the most misunderstood concepts in anxiety recovery: healing. Sparked by a listener question about balancing relationships with anxiety recovery work, the hosts dive deep into what healing anxiety really means - and what it doesn't. The Problem with "Healing" Language Drew and Josh explore how t…
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Ever feel like the weight of your household rests entirely on your shoulders? That how you show up determines how everyone else in your home shows up too? That's because it does—and not in a guilt-trip way. In a powerful, reclaim-your-peace way. In this episode, I'm sharing 3 nervous system truths every mama needs to hear when life feels loud, chao…
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Welcome to From the Trenches mini-episodes! I aim for these brief, unscripted thoughts to reach you from my phone to yours as if we were girlfriends just swapping voice memos. Wanna respond? Shoot me a message over on IG @coachrachelfernandez letting me know what you think! Here's what we're talking about today: Ever find yourself losing it over so…
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Ever feel trapped in cycles of rumination, overthinking, and constant mental chatter about your anxiety? In this episode, Drew and Josh tackle the challenging question of how to "get out of your own head" without turning it into another exhausting battle. Starting with a thoughtful question from a listener who has built an impressive life despite o…
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You're doing "all the right things"—the bubble baths, the breaks, the self-care routines. So why do you still feel like an exhausted mom? In this episode, I unpack the hidden reason your self-care might not be working—and the real shift that tired moms need to feel grounded, energized, and like themselves again. Hint: it's not more alone time or an…
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Welcome to FROM THE TRENCHES mini-episodes—a brief, unscripted voice note from my heart to yours. This one is raw, tender, and anchored in a mama's deepest fear and her fiercest faith. In this episode, I share my real-time thoughts as I process the tragic floodwaters that swept through Camp Mystic in Texas and the girls who are still missing. We ta…
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What If I Want To Control My Anxiety Holistically? In this episode, Drew and Josh examine tension between wanting to control anxiety through holistic approaches and recognizing when that desire for control becomes part of the problem itself. Key Topics Discussed: The difference between actual control and the illusion of control How the wellness and…
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In this honest reentry episode, I (Rachel) share the behind-the-scenes truth of why I paused my business, what life has looked like over the past few months, and how I'm rebuilding from a more rooted, radiant place. This episode is for the anxious mama who feels like what used to work just isn't working anymore—and who's craving a gentler, deeper r…
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Am I Doing Too Much Recovery/Exposure? This week Drew and Josh tackle a common question in anxiety recovery: "Am I pushing myself too hard with exposures?" The guys explore the nuanced balance between challenging yourself and recognizing when you might genuinely need rest. In this episode: How to distinguish between being genuinely depleted versus …
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This week Drew and Josh are answering questions from listeners. Questions addressed in this episode include: Is it "normal" to feel a letdown after completing and big successful exposure/challenge? What work can we do to address the fawn response? Isn't a panic attack a medical emergency? How can it possibly be safe to experience panic?! Staying of…
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Death anxiety - an obsessive fixation on death, dying and existence driven by intense fear of the inevitability of death - is a very common experience for listeners of Disordered. This week Josh and Drew were lucky enough to have a chat with Professor David Veale, one of the leading authorities in in the UK on the topic of death anxiety and mental …
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What's the difference between rumination and reflection? Ruminators, worriers, and over thinkers often struggle to recognize the useful limits of thinking. They can become unsure when they are engaging in helpful reflection or problem solving .... and when they are ruminating and worrying with no good outcomes and often actual negative outcomes. Th…
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This week on Disordered we're discussing the all too common narrative in wellness circles that demands that we ascribe all anxiety or suffering of any kind to unhealed or unprocessed trauma. And while its certainly a good thing that we are more concerned with life experiences than structural defects now, this narrative can be unhelpful or even harm…
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"Help! I started doing exposures and trying to accept my anxiety and its getting worse!" This is a very common experience in anxiety disorder recovery. Its been spoken about at great length in the community surrounding the Disordered podcast. This week we're tackling the "worse before better" issue. When you stop running, hiding, avoiding, escaping…
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When we struggle with chronic or disordered anxiety, we regularly experience powerful emotions that tend to look like fear or tension. We may experience intense feelings of being vulnerable, or doomed. We talk about these things all the time. But what about when you have emotions about having those emotions? Struggling to overcome an anxiety proble…
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"Hey ChatGPT. Please tell me how I'll know if I'm accepting my anxiety or avoiding it." "Hey ChatGPT. When I get anxious my vision gets weird. Can anxiety do that? " "Hello Reddit. Does anyone else feel like ...." The guys are back after a short break to talk about the use of ChatGPT, AI, Reddit, Google, and the Internet in general in the context o…
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We're taking a short two week break, so no new episode of Disordered for April 18 or April 25. We'll be back again on May 2! In the meanwhile, head over to disordered.fm and check out our back catalog of episodes. We've done some cool (and fun) stuff over the last two years so check it out. Thank you for all your support. We really appreciate all o…
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When working on anxiety recovery, sometimes we're DOING. Other times we have to focus on NOT doing. How confusing is that!? This week Drew and Josh are chatting about how DOING things specific to anxiety recovery and NOT DOING things specific to anxiety recovery are related and how these two concepts work together. In a nutshell, doing is about act…
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