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89 - Antifascism and the law w/ Andy Meinke
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This week I'm joined by legal observer Andy Meinke of : court support group Activist Court Aid Brigade to discuss new restrictions in UK protest law, the vagaries of conspiracy, the difficulties of legal observing a antifascist protest and much more.Support the show on patreon: patreon.com/12rulesforwhatFollow the instagram and twitter @12rulesforw…
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88 National Conservatism w/ Timo Koch
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Today researcher and writer Timo Koch joins the show to discuss National Conservatism, a far right populist ideology focussed on influencing high level policy. We cover Natcon's history, the influence of Orban, its reactionary idea of the family and much more.Support the show on patreon: patreon.com/12rulesforwhat…
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87 - Border violence and the far right in Serbia w/ Milica Svabic
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This week I am joined by Milica Svabic of the migrant solidarity and border monitoring organisation Kilkaktiv to discuss border violence and the far right in Serbia. We talk about the practical work of supporting people on the move in Serbia, how smuggling gangs have become stronger because of increased border security, the far right's use of the m…
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86 Lina E Trial And The Far Right In Germany
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Antifascist activist Pavel joins the show to discuss the trial of Lina E, an antifascist from Germany facing a prison sentence for alleged attacks on neo Nazis.We cover the details of the trial, the repression of the left within Germany, the prospects of the far right AFD, the rise of the Reischburger movement and the December 2022 coup plot.If you…
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85 Monitoring the EU's racist violent borders w/BVMN
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Today Annie and Elena from the Border Violence Monitoring Network join the show to discuss their work on the borders of the European Union. We discuss the criminalisation of solidarity work, how people on the move are treated by the racist border regime, the impact of climate on the border regime and much more!If you want to support the show and ge…
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84 Ethnonationalist Splits w/ Red Flare
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Today the podcast is joined by long time contributor Allan Jones of Red Flare to discuss the latest happenings on the UK ethnonationalist scene. We cover Patriotic Alternative's rocky few months, two significant spits from PA, the increasing counter terror repression of the far right and more!Support the show on patreon at patreon.com/12rulesforwha…
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83 Antifascism, Sports, Sobriety: lessons from history
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The podcast is back from hiatus with a critical discussion on antifascist self defence, building a working class sports culture and sobriety. I disucss these issues and more with writer and activist Solan, basing our coversation on the writings of inter-war Austrian marxist Julius Deutsch. We cover the historical period in which Deutsch was writing…
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82 - The Story of Anti-Racist Action w/ Shannon Clay
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Today we are joined by the co-author of We Go Where They Go: The Story of Anti-Racist Action Shannon Clay. We discuss ARA's beginnings in Minnesota, the reason why reproductive justice became a part of organising, the state of the US far rights of the time and much more! You can buy We Go Where They go via PM Press or from your nearest independent …
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81 - Andrew Tate and the crisis of masculinity
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A familiar voice joins the show to discuss the latest leader of the loser men, Andrew Tate. We discuss Tate's link to the political far right, the nature of his conception of masculinity, the crisis of young men online and much more!If you want to support the show you can subscribe to our patreon: patreon.com/12rulesforwhat…
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80 - Jewish Antifascist Left in Australia w/ Max Kaiser
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Today I'm joined by Max Kaiser, author of the new book Jewish Anti-fascism and the False Promise of Settler Colonialism to discuss a forgotten history of Jews in Australia. We discuss the complexities of Holocaust memorialisation, the importance of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising to Jewish anti-fascists, the position of Jewish migrants in Australian soc…
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79 - Antifa in America w/ IGD
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For our first episode of 2023 we are joined by Mike from the It's Going Down Collective to discuss all things US antifascism. We discuss the presence of firearms on demonstrations, the aftermath of January 6th, how US colonialism influences the far right and much more!**This episode was recorded before allegations of sexual coercion were made again…
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78 - OSINT and far right monitoring w/ Bellingcat
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For the final episode of the year, Alex and guest host Mark talk to Michael Colborne of Bellingcat Monitoring on investigating hate online, the expose of Rob Rundo, Azov, Putin's Russia and more.12 Rules For WHAT által
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77 - Far right, MMA and anti-fascist gyms
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I chat to independent journalist Murray Kemp about his recent article on the far right in MMA, and the anti-fascist red gyms challenging it.We discuss the importance of anti-fascists training combat sports, how the UFC allows the right to flourish and ask just how good a fighter Andrew Tate actually was. Support the show on patreon! patreon.com/12r…
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76 - Hindutva in India and the UK w/ Amardeep Dhillon
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Writer and actovist Armadeep Dhillon joins the podcast to discuss the the impact of far right Hindu nationalism in the UK, in India and on the internet. We discuss the recent unrest in Leicester, how Hindutva is promoted around the world, its origins in India, colonialism and the legacy of the British Empire and much more!…
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75 - Brothers of Italy w/ David Broder
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In the past weeks Fratelli d'Italia, a party who can trace a lineage to Mussolini's regime, was elected as the leader of a far right coalition that will take power in Italy.Today David Broder, Jacobin European editor and author of upcoming book Mussolini's Grandchildren: Fascism in Contemporary Italy, joins the podcast to discuss the election, Frat…
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74 - 3 way fight and the US far right w/ Matthew Lyons
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Independent scholar and writer Matthew Lyons joins the podcast to discuss the historical development of the far right in the USA, the problems with common analyses of fascism, the effect of gun culture in the US and the relevance of the three way fight for anti-fascists today. Matthew is the author of Insurgent Supremacists: the US Far Right's Chal…
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73 - Identity Politics w/ Michael Richmonds and Alex Charnley
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Today Michael Richmond and Alex Charnley, the authors of Fractured: Race, Class, Gender and the Hatred of Identity Politics, join the podcast to discuss how reactionary forms of identity politics operate, both in the world today and historically. We discuss why the working class has never been united, how black feminists used concepts of identity i…
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72 - Dutch Farmer Protests w/ Kai Heron and Alex Heffron
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This week I am joined by lecturer and political theorist Kai Heron and first generation farmer and writer on agroecology Alex Heffron to discuss the far right influences in the farmer protests currently sweeping the Netherlands, far right representations of rural life, the politics of food production and much more!Check out Kai and Alex's work: htt…
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71 - Fascist Fitness Culture and Combat Sports
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Today I am joined by antifascist researcher Allan Jones to discuss all things fascist fitness culture and combat sports. We cover a recent expose of Patriotic Alternative's fitness clubs, self improvement threads on 4chan, the far right subculture in MMA and much more!Support the show on Patreon patreon.com/12rulesforwhat…
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70 - Qanon and Transphobia w/ Io Dodds
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I am joined by journalist Io Dodds to discuss the latest in the world in Qanon, Tanon and the rising tide of transphobia in the US. Read Io's article on the topic here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/transgender-far-right-qanon-violence-b2108235.htmlSupport the show and join in on our summer book club here: patreon.co…
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69 - Strategic Reflections on 12 Rules // Sam's Final Episode
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The boys reflect on nearly 4 years of 12 rules as an anti-fascist project, assess the state of far right and anti-fascist movements and draw some concluding arguments and reccomendations from their output. Message from Sam: Doing 12 Rules for WHAT has been one of the most important and enlightening experiences of my life, but I am now moving on to …
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68 - The Turner Diaries w/ The Empire Never Ended
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We talk all about the influential nazi book The Turner Diaries with Fritz and Boris of the podcast The Empire Never Ended. We discuss the author, William Luther Pierce, the unremitting bleakness of the book, the representation of women and much more.You can support them here: https://www.patreon.com/tenepod…
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67 - Reclaiming Anti-racism w/ Ilyas Nagdee and Azfar Shafi
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Today we are joined by Ilyas Nagdee and Azfar Shafi, authors of the upcoming book Race to the Bottom, to discuss anti-racism from below, it's co-option and repression, the deficiencies of anti-racism from above and how we rebuild new grassroots movements. You can pre order the book via Pluto Press, the book comes out later in June!…
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66 - Reactionary Democracy In France? w/ Aurelien Mondon
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We are joined by author Aurelien Mondon to discuss the recent election in France in the context of his co authored book Reactionary Democracy: How Racism and the Populist Far Right Became Mainstreamhttps://www.versobooks.com/books/3173-reactionary-democracy12 Rules For WHAT által
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65 - The Polish Far Right w/ D161
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We discuss the dynamics of the Polish far right and the Polish government with Dywizjon 161. We discuss the ruling Law and Justice Party, the 2010 plane crash subject to far right conspiracies, the shifting positions on migration in the context of war in Ukraine, far right cooption of the independence day march and more! https://twitter.com/Dywizjo…
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64 - On Antifascist Organisations With Zack
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We are joined by author and activist Zack to discuss his article 'Building to Confront Fascism' and the problem of building robust antifascist organisations. We ask what building antifascist movements means in the age of the internet, the contemporary models for anti-fascist organising, anti-fascism's relationship to anti-racism and much more!Read …
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We talk to spokesperson for Bristol Antifascists about the far right party For Britain, Tommy Robinson, and the upcoming opposition to FB's demonstration in favour of slave trader Edward Colston. The counter demo is happening on the 9th of April, 11 am at the empty plinth in Bristol.Bristol Defendants: https://twitter.com/bristoldefenda1?lang=en-GB…
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This week we hear from Sam and the launch of his new project series on the politics and theories of social collapse. In this first episode Sam introduces the project, sets out some terms and explains what we can expect in the weeks to come! 'The content will encompass collapsology, existential risk research, political theory, the politics and cultu…
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62 - Eric Zemmour w/ Rona Lorimer
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We are joined by Rona Lorimer to discuss the career of fascist French presidential candidate Eric Zemmour.We discuss how Zemmour was allowed a position on mainstream French media, his articulation of a militant anti-feminism, his capacity to shake off scandal and the prospects for opposition to rising reaction in France. The interview was recorded …
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61 - Antifascist monitoring in Europe w/ Bjørn Ihler
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We are joined by campaigner, researcher and activist Bjørn Ihler to discuss the newly launch European Anti-fascist Monitoring Project, a joint initiative between the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation and the Khalifer Ihler Institute. We discuss the necesscity of transnational research into the far right, the question of deradicalisation and much more! http…
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Alex and Sam talk about the future of ecofascism: how does it relate to the crises of capitalism and the environment in our future? And what can we do about it?This is our final book preview, back to regular episodes next week! If you want to hear the full show, subscribe to our patreon. Going forward subscribers will have early access to the shows…
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We've written a book! Yes, another one politybooks.com/bookdetail/?isbn=9781509545377It's out right now in the UK and is available for preorder in the US.In this episode, we talk through the second section of the book on the nature politics of the contemporary far right.12 Rules For WHAT által
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We've written a book! Yes, another one https://politybooks.com/bookdetail/?isbn=9781509545377It's out next Monday, 7th February 2022. In this episode, we talk through the first section of the book on the history of far-right ecologism.12 Rules For WHAT által
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60 - Nick Fuentes and America First w/ Ben Lorber
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We are joined by writer and researcher Ben Lorber to discuss the America First movement, its leader Nick Fuentes and its strategy of entryism into the Republican Party.We talk about why Fuentes has been effective whilst the alt right foundered, what exactly is up with far right congressman Paul Gosar, the collapse of American democracy and more!Che…
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59 - Capitol Riot Redux
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Alex and Sam discuss the failure of political culture to coherently deal with the events of 6th January 2021. What are the contradictions in the liberal and anti-fascist responses? Why was Charlottesville declared exceptional by conservatives but January 6th not? Why does everyone want to be the state now?…
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58 - The end of the world as we know it
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Finishing off our last episode of the year with a cheery one, we discuss how the possibility of societal collapse in the coming decades effects our politics today. We discuss different theories of collapse, how the far right conceptualises apocalyse, colonial theories of nature and race and how anti-fascism links in to climate struggles.We also plu…
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57 - On Antisemitism w/ Barnaby Raine
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We talk to writer, scholar and activist Barnaby Raine about the social causes, functions and effects of contemporary anti-Semitism. We also talk about nature of conspiracy, manifestations of left and right anti-Semitism and more! You can read Barnaby's essay Jewphobia Now here: https://salvage.zone/articles/jewophobia-now/Support the show at our Pa…
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56 - Order Of Nine Angles w/ The Empire Never Ended
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We are joined by the guys behind The Empire Never Ended podcast to discuss the Order of the Nine Angles.We cover how real the O9A actually is, the weird history of it's founder, David Myatt, what satanism provides to nazi scenes, the efficacy and ethics of proscription and more!https://www.patreon.com/tenepodYou can now get our first book here: htt…
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55 - Late Capitalist Fascism w/ Mikkel Bolt Rasmussen
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Sam and Mikkel Bolt Rasmussen talk about Mikkel's new book on 'Late Capitalist Fascism'. What do Guy Debord and George Jackson have to tell us about the fascists we face today? What kinds of capitalist decomposition are giving rise to fascism?Get the book here: https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=late-capitalist-fascism--9781509547432…
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54 - Patriotic Alternative w/ Red Flare
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We are joined by Allan Jones of anti-fascist research group Red Flare to discuss new kids on the far right block, Patriotic Alternative. We discuss the the weird history of their leader Mark Collett, how PA dance around their nasty politics, the shift from civic to ethno nationalism on the UK far right, and much more!Buy our new book, its good: htt…
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53 - The Buglarian far right and prisoners solidarity w/ Jock Palfreeman
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We talk to Jock Palfreeman, anti-fascist and prisoner solidarity organiser about his case and his work inside Bulgarian prisons. We discuss how far-right parties control the prisons, the history of anti-Roma violence, and the wider Bulgarian far right.Support Jock: https://www.patreon.com/jockpalfreemanhttps://www.paypal.me/jockpalfreemanYou can bu…
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52 - Anti-fascist research and the global far right w/ Joe Mulhall
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This week we are joined by Joe Mulhall, director of research at Hope not Hate, to discuss the intricies of anti-fascist research, Hope not hate's relationship to the wider anti-fascist movement, the nature of the global far right, the ethics of calling for prosciption of nazi groups and more! We also discuss his latest book, Drums in the Distance: …
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51 - Feminist Anti-fascism w/ Ewa Majewska
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Ewa Majewska is an author and feminist theorist whose most recent book Feminist Antifascism is out now from Verso. https://www.versobooks.com/books/3820-feminist-antifascismEwa talks to Sam about resistance, counterpublics, and why feminism must be at the core of anti-fascism.You can get our book from Dog Section Press here: https://dogsection.bigc…
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50 - Race Relations and the BNP in Burnley w/ Mike Makin-Waite
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We are joined by Mike Makin-Waite, Burnley council officer responsible for race relations in the aftermath of the so-called Burnley 'race riots' in 2001 when the BNP gained council seats for the first time since 1993. We discuss the causes and context of the disturbances in 2001, how the BNP was able to capitalise on white resentment for electoral …
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49 - Far Right Down Under w/ Yeah Nah Pasaran
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We are joined by Cam Smith and Andy Fleming, writers, researchers, actvists and hosts of the podcast Yeah Nah Pasaran, to disscus the far right and fascism in so called Australia. We discuss the strange connections to US evangelicalism, the recent expose of the National Socialist Network, the historical context of the far right in Australia, it's p…
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48 - Free speech and no platform w/ Dave Renton
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We are joined by author Dave Renton to discuss his latest book, No Free Speech for Fascists: Exploring 'No Platform' in History, Law and Politics.We discuss the development of free speech in relation to the left, talk about how why 'no platform' developed as a tactic, why its good to stop fascist speech, and more!You can get Dave's book here via Ro…
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47 - Incels and Antifeminism w/ Annie Kelly
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In the wake of the tragic shootings in Plymouth we are joined by a returning guest Annie Kelly to discuss her research into digital anti-feminism.We talk about the context and history of anti-feminism online, the dangers of labelling incels as terrorists, the nature of contemporary misogyny and more.…
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46 - Nigel Farage And The Boat Crossings w/ Channel Rescue
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In this episode we are joined by Zosia of human rights monitoring group Channel Rescue for an update on their work, the wider context of far right activism on migrant crossings, the recent antics of Nigel Farage and more! We are organising a workshop for the upcoming anti-university festival. Check it out on the programme and see what else is on he…
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45 - Anti-fascism and Apocalypse w/ Shane Burley
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We are joined by author and activist Shane Burley to discuss his new book Why We Fight: Essays on Fascism, Resistance, and Surviving the Apocalypse. We discuss the how to define fascism in the contemporary moment, finding hope in the face apocalypse, the career of far right activist Andy Ngo and the very racist history of Portland Oregon.You can or…
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44 - Ecofascism and far-right ecology w/ Blair Taylor
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Sam and Blair discuss all things far-right ecology, building on Blair's invaluable work in the field.Blair Taylor is the director of programmes at the Institute for Social Ecology. https://social-ecology.org/wp/We discuss Blair's chapter in this book: https://www.routledge.com/The-Far-Right-and-the-Environment-Politics-Discourse-and-Communication/F…
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