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Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
 
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THE EMOTIONAL CONNECTIONS – (How Not To Be Alone) The Red Hot Chili Peppers - Eddie Vedder - Pearl Jam - Morrisey - Dot Hacker and Pluralone Does Josh Leave LA or Tour with Sparks? - Is This Town Not Big Enough? Josh as Young and Lucky, Shy but Open to Saying, Yes – I Can! The Perils of Looping, Feeding the Squirrels and Answering the Telephone. Is…
 
BEING RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW! – (What it was like, what happened and what it’s like now.) Budgie discovered the Chill Out Zone with Ben Juno Reactor. Lol discovered his Brave New World post Cure. How our Rolls have Changed. We simply have to have all the GEAR!! Football – Squash – Motorcycles or Bowling – We Have to have the Correct Shoes! Lol went S…
 
Early Prophets of Dark Deviant Magic & Voodoo (Siouxsie sings about sick serial killers and surveillance cameras.) Lol introduces: Nightshift as John McGeoch’s Finest hour. Its Shimmering Tension - a Simmering Sizzling Juggernaut. If Budgie was forced to choose, Nightshift would be his finest hour too! Lol says, “Budgie reintroduced the ride cymbal…
 
And how it was that…. Lol didn’t revere HIM until Low. How HE was L’Homme Existential with the Hennaed hair . Budgie remembers HIM making the duffel coat cool. HIS music and lyrics. HIS harmonica on Low returns on Blackstar. ‘What In The World’… Briny Eggs Wrapped in Offal downed with Halves of Beer down the pub! (To be said very fast after drinkin…
 
Lol's orange punk jacket and pants from the thrift store and pointy boots. The album that went with this outfit was the Clash’s first album. The picture on the back of the album is the Notting Hill Gate carnival. Lol is in it mentally and spiritually. “We’re a garage band, we come from Garageland.” The Stranglers on the college juke box for Budgie.…
 
In which they discuss: The Album at The Centre of The Banshees’ Split! Budgie leaves Liverpool for London - finds fluorescent socks and The Artful Dodger aka Steve Strange. / London’s empty Apartments are a Network of Knowledge for Survival in Post-war Britain / Money was Scarce, Ideas were Plentiful. Budgie’s management was Swingbest - The Sex Pis…
 
1981 The Stones turn up to see The Stray Cats in London! Slim Jim meets Siouxsie and Budgie. Lol sees The Cats strut their stuff at the Marquee. They’re the greatest band in the world but, they have No name! This is how they started New Hair Cuts! Got all the Gear! Hello Blue Cats! Any new haircut was cool. Lot of cross-over in punk-era London. Str…
 
A thread that pulls you through the years @rockhall-13 million people in 27 years! Cleveland, Bowies' first us gig here, Jimi Hendrix, came back. Alan Freed coined the phrase rock and Roll. I.M. Pei designed the museum building after he had seen The Who and Stones. Created a very energetic and emotional structure. The home of America's great art. L…
 
In this Episode Lol and Budgie continue our talk with: Zola Jesus with whom, we discuss: Zola in LA - Seattle and Wisconsin / Sacred Bones and family. A Spiritual Strength to ground you / Zola’s black metal box in the woods. Lol imagines a desert commune / A post-punk Kibbutz / Budgie acknowledges strong women. Zola battles the male power dynamic a…
 
Music is an all encompassing but insular process. A different air. Space and place is important . The Creatures played blind mans buff with a map of the world. The amazing three day New Years eve! Budgie bought Heinz baked beans and some drum sticks to Hawaii. A sense of occasion. To go outside of the normal experience. You have to grow by being pu…
 
Strangers visiting were a different breed, an assault on our sensibilities. The people were real. It was candy, floss, toffee apples, and diesel. No internet, so no real connections/Lol had the library books and records, to develop a sense of discovery. Make a band and travel the world. Minor eccentrics would visit the workshop of humanity. A selec…
 
First album takes three years and the next a millionth of the time Did a new Specials album no Ska! Probably a new record coming, and Specials unplugged works great. All looking well! Lockdown produced covers of protest songs Terry has to have no distractions and go to Paris. First tour since lockdown was fantastic. Lol remembers his first Specials…
 
The A to Z of NYC / Armour wearing on Avenue C Punk Rock style and Attitude / 70’s Commercial Radio v College Radio When REM were Cool / when the NME reached N. Carolina 1991 Anarchy from the USA - The Yanks invade the UK Superchunk played The Old Trout or was it, Windsor soup? Post Punk-All bets are off / The Slits disregard all regardless Our Emo…
 
Dedicated to: Tony Allen (20 July 1940 – 30 April 2020) Fela Kuti / Afro Beat & Afro Funk In this episode Lol and Budgie talk to: Joan Wasser Joan as Violinist with a White Mohawk / Joan as The Driver in a V8 Ford Mustang Joan and Budgie as Cyclists in their Cities / Lol & Budgie responsible for the Melancholy Lol, Robert & Michael as Burglars in t…
 
We are chuffed to see the Bunnyman! Will just got off tour; it was 11 out of 10- weird! People still like our band's music all these years later. Ancient history. It's just weird? Bugger all else to do so we plundered a lot of different music. Whats a wooly back? A sheep in wolf's clothing. Paul Rutherford in radical Pajamas. Band names had to be s…
 
The Cure’s first album, Three Imaginary Boys, released in 1979, was made into a compilation called Boys Don’t Cry for the American market in 1980. Welcome to a slightly different format of Curious Creatures, in which Lol and Budgie discuss a specific topic in more detail. In this first episode, Lol talks about Boys Don’t Cry and Cure manager Chris …
 
For more info visit us online at: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curi…
 
Which silver screen superstar honed his comedic chops behind bars while doing time for slinging cocaine? Which movie mogul's home in the Hollywood hills played host to one of the most heinous and notorious crimes of the 1970s? And how did ONE movie franchise supposedly curse FOUR different actors, leading them each to an early grave? Hear the unbel…
 
Lol and Budgie discuss[es] birthdays they have spent in the studio (Lol for 17 Seconds) or on the road having the bus party (Budgie). Everything closed in London at Christmas. We only got home just in time. Every day is Saturday in a band, even if it's Monday. Unless it's Boxing Day. We would be working every weekend. Hey, we signed up for it. We w…
 
Deranged stalkers, heroin hounds, and the leering eyes of the FBI; find out who’s visiting Disgraceland this winter in the Season 9 trailer of Disgraceland. The newest season of the award-winning music and true crime podcast premieres January 11, 2022. Check out the first 8 seasons, and the NEW season of Disgraceland, only on Amazon Music. For epis…
 
In which lol and Budgie discover why Lol won't eat leftovers. They leave home and make Lobby Scouse and omelets. Alice Cooper and pressure cookers. Wasps and Bangers, baked potatoes, baked beans, and tea! It's necessary to have your own caterers on tour. Meeting other bands at a service station means-punk rock food fight! The Italians and Dutch hav…
 
Kate comes to LA. We learn the drummers are driving the ship. Holistically in control of everything! Like Lol, Kate got her DL in California. NYC is okay when you're young but it's hard. Kate started to work in TV. Never thought she would end up in LA. You have to be open and willing to take risks. LA is a small town masquerading as a big city wher…
 
We realize we are all drummers! Budgie makes a voodoo dolly of Siouxsie. We find out Kate's teen fantasy comes true when she replaces Clem Burke in Blondie! Kate reveals at 15 she blagged her way into the Ritz to interview the Banshees. Budgie let Kate sit behind his kit! She lets him know he's her favorite drummer!! Cheeky! Budgie and Lol and fema…
 
Lol and Budgie play the Utah rodeo - a dust bowl of outsiders. The "Lush Lounge" provided libations as did the aptly named "Eat Your Heart Out" mixing up buckets of cocktails on the road. Budgie passed the drinks across the kit in Colorado. Lol had 23 shows in Australia and life seemed just like the Blues Brothers. Sorry about the show! The banshee…
 
IT makes no sense, Budgie and Lol find out, if you don't like music because it's like not breathing! When you discover the passion and know what you want to do with your life is mostly a teen thing. Hard to find stuff is what makes you want to do it more the more obscure the better But don't try too hard to be different. You only need three chords …
 
In which Budgie and Lol discover they were a little scared of normal. We knew what we didn’t want to sound like, but loved the Ramones/the Clash/Bowie/Buzzcocks and T-Rex. Music was the future there were no niceties for us. A cup of tea and potato for two was it! Punk put different people in the spotlight, something was happening. Then the fairytal…
 
In which Budgie and Lol reveal it all started at the fairgrounds of England. Like a Stephen King novel? The teddy boys, rockers and… girls! Pink Floyd played our bowling alley! Post war England was grim and our true education was punk. Out of the depression we escaped through music. Even the Partridge family! Budgie learns stagecraft in his secret …
 
In which Budgie goes to the Florida keys with the Banshees and Sioux only has a flashlight for her light show! Sometimes the best shows are when nobody is there. Lol was scared in Denver on Halloween by Fred Munster! A misty lake in Finland never gets dark for Lol and the Cure. Budgie feels the heat with Love and Rockets in Arizona . It's Hot, hot,…
 
Budgie and Lol hear about Tim's first memory of Little Jimmy Osmond at 6 years old and then Buzzcocks in 1978 at ten years old. He got let in the back door of clubs went on stage in the late 80's doing his thing and nobody has told him to get off yet. The sun came out in Manchester and everyone started dancing! Tim ended up In Los Angeles as part o…
 
Roped into a cult at birth. Weddings ( and funerals) were an early source of income for Lol. The Latin mass was mysterious to us ! At the advent of the folk mass, our faith lapsed but the guilt remains, however. Confession is not necessarily good for the soul if you can be revealed! Lols is not a fan of organized religion. At 14 it all changed. Bud…
 
Terri Nunn (Berlin) joins Lol and Budgie this week on Curious Creatures. Lol and Budgie discover that the journey is half the battle. The three discuss whether or not musicians have social issues, and if music is the bridge (apparently it’s good for your heart). Lol, Budgie and Terri wonder if the magic of music lasts forever. Do kids listen to and…
 
1970s why Punk just had to be! Everything was flared! I ain't no square with my corkscrew hair Trex Bryan Ferry and Jelly sandals! #1 and #2 Crop. Two partings, Find yer gang! Lol reveals he might have bought the bondage strides Pete Burns actually had a pair of Bondage strides and Paul Rutherford was very jealous. Homemade buttons (badges) Clash j…
 
Lol and Budgie are joined by Michael Dempsey, the third founding member of The Cure. Lol and Budgie discover that Michael really dug Lol’s hairdo. They find out they were both misfits of no fixed abode in a progressive In-a-Gadda da-Vida” where “Electric Warriors” congregated against the miasma of Apathy. Michael notes that not being able to play i…
 
James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) is back to chat with Lol and Budgie for the second time. Lol and Budgie discover that James really digs crazy music. They talk about the Road to Damascus leading to the Fountain of Eternal Youth, along with creating and why mistakes matter! Later Lol and Budgie discover drumming on chunks of metal, a love of staircase…
 
James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) joins Lol and Budgie on this episode of Curious Creatures. Budgie and Lol discover that James knows all about the English Doom. They discuss the Power of newness. Limitations are good now, everyone thinks they’re cool. James says he loves Lol and Budgie (and they love him back). Later Lol and Budgie discover leather p…
 
Curious Creatures is hosted by Lol Tolhurst and Budgie. Lol is the co-founder of The Cure and Budgie was the drummer for Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Slits, Big in Japan, and co-founder of The Creatures. The duo have over 100 years of combined experience to draw upon since their beginnings as punk pioneers. In each episode of Curious Creatures, L…
 
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